“I’m whatever you aren’t, you fucker” - water, to the substance you mixed with it.
Is water an acid or a base?
Submitted 2 months ago by fossilesque@mander.xyz to science_memes@mander.xyz
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lvxferre@mander.xyz 2 months ago
Someonelol@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 months ago
Little bits of it oscillate between hydronium and hydroxide so a little of both but not enough to make a difference.
NielsBohron@lemmy.world 2 months ago
That’s why the meme works. It’s not because water autoionizes; it’s because water is amphoteric, meaning it can act as either a Brønsted-Lowry acid or BL base depending on what what it’s reacting with. Put water with ammonia, and water acts as an acid. Put water with acetic acid, and it acts as a base
Source: I teach college chemistry
AnarchistArtificer@slrpnk.net 2 months ago
Water is so cool. I like how the hydrophobic effects drives protein folding
MonkderVierte@lemmy.ml 2 months ago
[deleted]NielsBohron@lemmy.world 2 months ago
Not really. Deuterium exists naturally in more it less the ratio as it has since the solar system first coalesced.
Also, deuterium is a component of heavy water, but the term “deuterium” actually referred to the specific isotope of hydrogen where the nucleus consists of one proton and one neutron, as opposed to a single proton (which is the more common isotope)
I_am_10_squirrels@beehaw.org 2 months ago
Yes
humanspiral@lemmy.ca 2 months ago
H2O is neutral PH, and so answer is no. But then water tends to have a bunch of shit disolved in it. So answer is yes.
A self-contradicting proposition based on ambiguity of definition of water, of all things. This statement can be used to make HAL explode.
MunkyNutts@lemmy.world 2 months ago
If you take into consideration the self-ionization of water, it’s both, at the same time.
2 H~2~O -> H~3~O^+^ + ^-^OH
humanspiral@lemmy.ca 2 months ago
AFAIU, it doesn’t change the PH neutrality.
I understand that they self combine/react again? But is that reaction still water?
Rob1992@lemmy.world 2 months ago
It’s not neutral, pure water is slightly acidic due to free hydrogen
Una@europe.pub 2 months ago
Ah yes amphoteric compounds
knacht1@lemmy.world 2 months ago
Do you mean dihydrogen monoxide?
mmddmm@lemm.ee 2 months ago
Pretty sure the OP meant hydrogen hydroxide.
Kolanaki@pawb.social 2 months ago
What is the PH of the water? 🤔
spicystraw@lemmy.world 2 months ago
About 7. Fun fact i did not know before research, at 100 C waters pH can go as low as 6.14.
nightwatch_admin@feddit.nl 2 months ago
It is the final frontier for either, your meme could have been so much more interesting. SAD.
21Cabbage@lemmynsfw.com 2 months ago
Isn’t water itself the pretty literal definition of 0 and it doesn’t become one or the other until it’s a solution with something else?
joyjoy@lemm.ee 2 months ago
Water is the definition of 7.
CookieOfFortune@lemmy.world 2 months ago
Also I’m pretty sure it’s only coincidentally 7. The calculation for pH isn’t based any property of water.
21Cabbage@lemmynsfw.com 2 months ago
Right, whatever the midpoint was. It’s been a minute since my last chemistry class.
trolololol@lemmy.world 2 months ago
But is it +0 or -0? Neutral 0 is a lie, a measurement precision error.
lugal@sopuli.xyz 2 months ago
Is this about the anomaly of water? I vaguely remember it from school
Una@europe.pub 2 months ago
No, this is about water being amphoteric compound meaning it behaves like a acid or base in different circumstances.
barsoap@lemm.ee 2 months ago
The water molecule is amphoteric in aqueous solution
A water molecule in aqueous solution. How can you tell it’s being dissolved, or doing the dissolving?
I_am_10_squirrels@beehaw.org 2 months ago
You mean it lives on land and in the pond?
Geodad@lemm.ee 2 months ago
Considering that water autoionizes, yes - it is both an acid and a base.
Natanael@infosec.pub 2 months ago
Inclusive or