In high school we were taught if the center of mass wasn’t on, well, mass, then it was called “virtual”.
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Submitted 4 weeks ago by fossilesque@mander.xyz to science_memes@mander.xyz
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DannyBoy@sh.itjust.works 4 weeks ago
Kongar@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 weeks ago
Not saying you’re wrong - you’re probably right. But as an engineer, I’ve referred to or been asked about “the center of mass” thousands of times and not once have I ever heard “virtual” used. It’s just always the center of mass - wherever that point exists in all of spacetime.
It’s weird. Did something change over the years (like using the Oxford comma or double spacing after a period?). Or is that something that’s always been a thing that I’ve never run across? Strange ;)
DannyBoy@sh.itjust.works 4 weeks ago
After doing a search online the only reference to a virtual center of mass is a StackExchange post that says it’s from a high school textbook. Must be the same one I had. Seems to be not so common of a term!
kayzeekayzee@lemmy.blahaj.zone 4 weeks ago
I think the correct term would be “mathematical”
DontRedditMyLemmy@lemmy.world 4 weeks ago
Spacetime?
kayzeekayzee@lemmy.blahaj.zone 4 weeks ago
Actually, every donut has a corresponding donut hole somewhere in the world, which holds the center of mass. This property of disconnection between a donut and its CoM has many interesting applications.
Swedneck@discuss.tchncs.de 4 weeks ago
sets down donut on table
donut instantly tilts to the side and clips into the table, proceeds to violently vibrate for a second before flying off into spacehelpImTrappedOnline@lemmy.world 4 weeks ago
Every time you eat a donut hole physicals is broken until someone eats a donut.
Comment105@lemm.ee 4 weeks ago
If the hole it’s cut, then yes. But there are other ways to make donuts.
thann@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 weeks ago
Its a circle in the middle of the bread
untorquer@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
Are we simply to assume the donuts have a homogenous internal structure? Clearly there’s not enough information.
BreadOven@lemmy.world 4 weeks ago
The secret third option: looking at the picture on the left; going straight through the donut through the middle in the vertical direction.
Although now that I saw it, I still think the original left picture is the correct answer. Even through the middle vertically as I mentioned, the centre of gravity would be the same, would it not?
WolfLink@sh.itjust.works 4 weeks ago
Left is correct. The center of mass of a donut is inside the hole, which is “outside the donut”.
This may seem unintuitive, but the center of mass of an object does not have to be inside the object.
This is the mechanism behind these toys:
The wings of the bird and poles of the clown extend below the main body, but are weighted so that’s where most of the weight is. So the center of mass is below the main body, so it will easily balance on the main body. However, your eyes will naturally focus on the main body, which would be unstable without the extra weight hanging off the side, making the balancing look surprising.
Robust_Mirror@aussie.zone 4 weeks ago
BreadOven@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
Yeah. Great explanation and pictures too. Thanks for confirming what I came to realize. Physics was never my thing…I’ll stick to chemistry.
CaptainBlagbird@lemmy.world 4 weeks ago
M’Ass tips fedora
DragonsInARoom@lemmy.world 4 weeks ago
Both
niktemadur@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
Curse you, Noneuclid!
Cattail@mastodon.social 4 weeks ago
@fossilesque donuts don't have middles
fossilesque@mander.xyz 4 weeks ago
KoboldCoterie@pawb.social 4 weeks ago
Obviously the left one.
If they wanted this to be an actual, debatable question, they shouldn’t have used ‘center of mass’, as the term has a specific definition and the question has a correct answer; it’s not open to interpretation, like “How would a horse wear pants?” or similar questions.
fossilesque@mander.xyz 4 weeks ago
I don’t think it was meant to be taken seriously, but these are the types of comments I was hoping for. ;)
KoboldCoterie@pawb.social 4 weeks ago
The most fun thing about this community is responding with serious answers to memes that were intended to be jokes. :)
Bell@lemmy.world 4 weeks ago
Wait is this an African horse or a European one?
Thorry84@feddit.nl 4 weeks ago
Fully laden or unladen?
DonGirses@lemmy.world 4 weeks ago
I don’t know…
AAAAH
Tolookah@discuss.tchncs.de 4 weeks ago
What you don’t know is that the mass distribution is extremely uneven as there’s a lead ball in the back half (for sweetness), and yeasty air bubbles in the front half.
olafurp@lemmy.world 4 weeks ago
Choosing the other one would be known as “rimming”
Contramuffin@lemmy.world 4 weeks ago
If a donut were to have a center of mass, would the center of mass be like this or like this?
bleistift2@sopuli.xyz 4 weeks ago
Would you mind sharing the source of that quote? I’m curious about the ‘relative position […] sums to zero’—relative to what? Suppose the mass is completely contained in the ‘upper right quadrant’ in 3D space (I’m lacking the language skill to express that accurately). Then I can’t find a definition that wouldn’t cause the sum to be positive.
KoboldCoterie@pawb.social 4 weeks ago
I just grabbed it from Wikipedia, so it’s likely written to be understandable to a layman (which is good, because that’s what I am).
That said, it’s just referring to the mass relative to the point you’re declaring the center of mass. If there’s 15g on the left, there should be 15g on the right; think of it like the center of mass being (0,0,0) on a 3 dimensional graph. 15g on one side is “negative” and on the other is “positive”, so the sum at the (0,0) point is 0g.