In addition to other comments here, I also stopped playing because I moved to Linux and not gonna keep a windows partition alive just to play D2.
Destiny 2 Players Struggle To Find Fireteams As Population Drops To All-Time Low
Submitted 9 hours ago by simple@lemm.ee to games@lemmy.world
https://thegamepost.com/destiny-2-players-population-drops-all-time-low/
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AliasAKA@lemmy.world 5 hours ago
ampersandrew@lemmy.world 4 hours ago
I’ll champion the death of any live service game, especially one that does it as egregiously bad as Destiny, but there are 20k concurrent players on Steam alone. If a fireteam is only 3 people, and you can’t fill it with that many people online, it’s just their matchmaking algorithm that needs to be adjusted.
jordanlund@lemmy.world 8 hours ago
I loved D1 and D2, putting in literally THOUSANDS of hours, and dropped it like it was hot when they cut out 1/2 the content in the game. Restore the vaulted content and I’ll come back. Without that, it’s clear you don’t value the time and money I invested.
conciselyverbose@sh.itjust.works 8 hours ago
Yep, fuck all that.
Ignoring the stuff I paid for, I don’t find any of the content they replaced it with (mostly if you buy more shit) satisfying at all. The original enemies were incredibly well designed and enjoyable. The taken weren’t bad. Most of the rest very clearly didn’t have the time put into designing them. They suck, and I don’t want to play them.
jordanlund@lemmy.world 7 hours ago
The “new” enemies were just re-skinned old enemies.
Dark_Arc@social.packetloss.gg 6 hours ago
People blame the sunsetting decision, but most people stuck around. Honestly I don’t think the stuff they sunset was all that good. The original planet designs were feeling tired. They have brought missions back as well… But it’s been too long since I played to remember.
The actual issue in my mind is they’ve decided making things hard means giving it a lot of health and make it take almost all of yours in one hit. So the only things that are viable are people’s cracked builds.
Basically without a full team of good shooter players, even easy mode dungeons are out of reach. Things just do so much damage and have so much health, it’s just not fun. Everything feels like a slog unless you go look up a cracked build someone made.
Actually, not everything feels like a slog. The content that doesn’t, everything just dies without any challenge.
So the options to play are roughly:
- comically easy
- this will take forever
- this will take forever + 1 and hit like a truck
- this will take forever + 2 and you instantly die
With some content having only the last 3 options.
They added some new enemy types recently, but it just hasn’t been enough to really make the game feel refreshed. Like, Remnant II showed how to do this well, different enemies, different ways that they attack you, different ways to ideally kill the enemy (i.e. lots of weak spot variety), lots of different attacks for the bosses (and death is a matter of avoiding the attacks not being in a 12 hour fight), every bullet takes a significant chunk of their health bar, etc
The locations have also felt a bit underwhelming, but that would be okay if the fights felt challenging and rewarding … not just like various reskins of the same enemies with either no or way too much health.
dinckelman@lemmy.world 9 hours ago
It’ll continue becoming worse too.
Most of the people I know are fed up with the issues. When frontiers comes around, I will not be buying it, at any price.
Bungie have shown that they are unable to improve things long-term. It’s always a bungie (sorry) cord jump, except with every bounce they sink deeper instead
collapse_already@lemmy.ml 6 hours ago
The story is done. Even when it wasn’t, the game felt like you were getting eight paragraphs of story per season spread over one paragraph per week.
I mostly pvp, the population is so bad that matchmaking has necessarily become terrible or there would be no matches. Every lobby has outliers on the high and low skill. The algorithm seems to put the six best players on the same team. I am either slaughtering the other team or getting slaughtered. A competitive match is a super rare occurrence. Anyway the lack of players makes the experience bad which is causing a death spiral. Anyone new is virtually guaranteed a bad experience, because most of the people left are the sweats.
I don’t know why I still play. Habit I guess. I have a huge backlog of games I ought to be playing instead. I game to relax and investing in the learning curve of a new game doesn’t feel very relaxing.
inlandempire@jlai.lu 9 hours ago
GOOD I will never forgive them for the sunsetting bs they pulled after delivering forskaren
cyd@lemmy.world 9 hours ago
Out of the loop. Why is Destiny 2 sinking? Didn’t the game use to print money? Did the money not get reinvested back into the live service (like how FFXIV funds get vacuumed away to prop up the rest of Square Enix), or did Bungie make some bad artistic choices, or what?
dinckelman@lemmy.world 8 hours ago
There are several contributors here.
Halfway through the lifecycle of Destiny 2 so far, Bungie realized that they have an insane amount of technological debt, and started cutting content out of the game, because it was unsustainable otherwise. The original promise was to rotate the cut content back in, but it was essentially just a lie.
One other outstanding issue is how bland, underdeveloped, and uninspired things are. Every update is “two tokens, and a blue”. Every new event is either standing on a plate, or throwing a core. Core game systems don’t work. The entire new season is fundamentally broken, and took away thing people still liked, just to return a ton of things people despised.
There is a lot more to it, but the core of the issue can be narrowed down to the business leadership being completely out of touch with reality, and bleeding resources
Stern@lemmy.world 8 hours ago
Game had its big final several years in the waiting boss show up and its storyline basically ended. Now it feels more like we’re doing post game sidequest stuff.
Also theres various reports of bungie firings and d2 being in maintenance mode while they try to push out a tarkov knockoff
Phegan@lemmy.world 7 hours ago
Everything I’ve heard about marathon is that’s it’s becoming less and less like tarkov.
teft@lemmy.world 7 hours ago
They all went to Marvel Rivals
falidorn@lemmy.world 6 hours ago
It’s like 7 years old now. Let it go Bungie, it’s time to move on.
ICastFist@programming.dev 7 hours ago
I only ever played the free stuff of the game. Decent shooter, but too expensive for my cheapass BRL tastes
SARGE@startrek.website 8 hours ago
“hey let’s release the same thing over and over again, charge almost full game price for it, and whenever something new comes out, just delete everything they’ve already paid for.”
“hey why aren’t people continuing to buy our game…”
Yeah. Great mystery, that one.
Bungie will never get another dollar from me.
glitchdx@lemmy.world 7 hours ago
as a warframe player, it boggles my mind that bungie can’t figure this out.
jordanlund@lemmy.world 8 hours ago
In fairness, they did stop deleting content… but at the same time they stubbornly refuse to restore the content already deleted…
illi@lemm.ee 2 hours ago
Except seasonal content. I wouldn’t care about the activities, but there is story stuff that directly continues story of one expansion and also leads into the next. Sometimes it is standalone, but also may or may not end up relevant later.
I was really into Destiny but once I got off that train it felt like I just can’t jump back on.
tacosanonymous@lemm.ee 7 hours ago
I hate that they deleted stuff but I can understand arguments against the size. It’s at 130GB without all of that missing content.
conciselyverbose@sh.itjust.works 8 hours ago
It’s not the same thing.
It’s downgraded.