What do people who promoted the "FEMA camps" conspiracy theory think about Trump's mass deportation?

Submitted ⁨⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago⁩ by ⁨WeUnite@lemm.ee⁩ to ⁨[deleted]⁩

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/FEMA_camps_conspiracy_theory

This has been a long standing conspiracy theory amongst right wing talk show hosts and other people. Basically the claim is that FEMA will imprison lots of people especially those with far right views using a emergency as a pretext. This conspiracy theory has been widely debunked already.

The interesting thing is now something like the conspiracy theory may happen in real life except ran by ICE instead of FEMA. I’m curious how people who previously propagated this conspiracy theory feel about Trump’s plan for a mass deportation. If you know anyone who’s into this conspiracy theory would you be able to ask them their thoughts on the FEMA camps and then bring up Trump’s mass deportation plan. I’m curious how’d they’d react. Let’s not assume because everyone is different. While trying to research this question I found one article from the right that showed deep concern about Trump’s plan: washingtontimes.com/…/deep-state-wants-terminate-… but I can’t really find much information otherwise.

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spankmonkey@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
The people who hated FEMA were afraid it would harm people that look like them and think ICE woll harm people that don’t look like them. That makes FEMA bad and ICE good in their hate filled mibds.

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- givesomefucks@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
  
  That makes FEMA bad and ICE good in their hate filled minds
  
  Humans are animals…
  
  We need socialized at a young age so our ingroup/outgroup doesn’t form along racial lines.
  
  If it does, it can be overcome with logic, but that takes constant effort, and as we age our minds go on “autopilot” more day to day, which is why old people who grew up pre-civil rights movement “become” racist as they age. Or after drinking or sleeping aids.
  
  For them it’s a conscious effort to remember “they” are really “us”.
  
  This isn’t my opinion or something I’m guessing at, it’s actual psychology.
  
  Like, people laugh at Alabama being so backwards for banning Sesame Street when it became racially inclusive, and they get called for calling it “brainwashing” but even just seeing people of different ethnicities on TV is enough to blur the line for their entire lives.
  
  I swear to God only the fascist option paying attention to science is the most maddening part of this.
  
  Their voters are idiots, their politicians are idiots, but the people calling the shots aren’t idiots.
  
  If you’re reducing them to “hate filled minds” then history will keep fucking repeating like it always does.
  
  And it’s fucking getting old to have fascists keep showing up.
  
  So I stead of imitating them and dehumanizing them, how about we do something with a snowballs chance in hell of working?
  
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  - Fandangalo@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
    I honestly think it’s lead exposure…There was lead all over until 1978. Baby boomers had this shit everywhere around them, and no surprise, they have chronic issues. I feel like many baby boomers really struggle with empathy… most seem angry at a base level.
    
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  - somethingsnappy@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
    You have explained a key part of the urban vs. rural divide. My kids are so “race blind” I have to make a concerted effort to teach them about all types of racism, direct through to institutional. Also euality vs. equity etc. It’s way easier to teach them about income inequality.
    
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- WeUnite@lemm.ee ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
  I totally get what you mean! The cruelty is the point and it will never happen to me or my family/friends so I don’t care.
  
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Boddhisatva@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
They don’t hate the idea of concentration camps. In fact, they like them if they’re for the people they’ve been trained to hate.

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- WeUnite@lemm.ee ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
  You’re right. I hope that maybe this could lead to a conversation about why putting people into camps is a bad idea. In my head I imagine starting a conservation with a conservative and they say why the FEMA camps are a bad idea then you could say how do you feel if you were put in one. Now ask how you’d think immigrants would feel when put in a camp. In reality things may not go how I imagine.
  
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  - cranakis@reddthat.com ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
    You’re relying on the right to be empathetic to immigrants, which they are not. Like not even a little, ever.
    
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  - givesomefucks@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
    Because you’re assuming everyone thinks the same, so what would convince you would convince anyone else.
    
    That isn’t true.
    
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  - Battle_Masker@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
    bold of you to assume those that want immigrants in camps think immigrants are people
    
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Feathercrown@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
Think? Why would they do that?

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- Treczoks@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
  Indeed, it will overheat their little brains.
  
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weew@lemmy.ca ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
You have to keep in mind that hypocrisy is not considered a bad thing to conservatives. It doesn’t matter that they’re hurting people, as long as they’re “hurting the right people.”

Conservative mindset is intently unequal. The ingroup gets all rewards and benefits, the outgroup gets all blame and punishment.

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- allidoislietomyself@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
  I keep telling all my liberal friends this. It’s a waste of time and energy to call out the Right’s hypocrisy and hang on to it like it’s some sort of trump card (no pun intended). The right does not care that they are hypocritical, in fact they actually revel in it, they find it hilarious that the left gets so worked up over it.
  
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FlashMobOfOne@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
They rationalize to themselves that whatever outrageous thing they used to be opposed to is just different when it’s their guy doing it.

I don’t think most people think things like this through, both liberal and conservative. For the most part they use corporate social media like Facebook, Twitter, or TikTok, and we know objectively that the algorithms feeding those users content are engineered to convince them that all of their opinions are correct (no matter how odd or outlandish) and to keep them perpetually outraged so they’ll continue to consume and click on ads. With AI proliferating, we’re now seeing the fast-tracking of false perspectives and information across the web.

Hell, for most of the last presidential election both sides were making excuses for the fact that they intended to vote for someone with clear, public, unavoidably evident cognitive decline. They didn’t think through that.

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someguy3@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
They think the government targets them, so when the GOP get in it’s ok to target other people. It’s all part of the propaganda.

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db2@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
Nothing. They’re dumb as a brick.

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yarr@feddit.nl ⁨1⁩ ⁨week⁩ ago
Why do right-wing people tend to portay the government as incompetent boobs EXCEPT when it’s convenient. They are too inept to do anything, except they can easily staff, coordinate and orchestrate a nation-wide roundup and subsequent detainment of tens of thousands of people.

For this conspiracy to be true, tens of thousands of Americans would already have to be in on the plan and you would see large construction projects (that are easily observed) located in each and every state. Just like the moon landing being faked, it would rely on so many people keeping the story perfectly secret, even though the scale of it would need to be breathtaking for the conspiracy to be true.

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- WeUnite@lemm.ee ⁨1⁩ ⁨week⁩ ago
  It’s a fascist propaganda technique. The enemy is both strong and weak.
  
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forrgott@lemm.ee ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
Since they’re not interested in anything resembling objective reality. Empirical evidence is a evil conspiracy by the deep state to silence them.

The FEMA camps are real, and you’re misunderstanding the statements about ICE camps. You just don’t get the joke.

The conditioning of these selfish twats is impenetrable. If you bring anything but compassion to the table, then you’re trying to fight with their weapons and lose. If you come at them with compassion, they accuse you of being dishonest…they are the victim in their mind, period.

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theywilleatthestars@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
Fine with it because it’ll only affect brown people.

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SelfProgrammed@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
My friend sent me a link to this conspiracy a couple weeks ago saying he heard about it on a right wing podcast and tried to tell me who the “Real” fascists are.

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Kaboom@reddthat.com ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
Fema confiscated weapons during Katrina. This is public knowledge. They aren’t trust worthy.

And for ice, it’s a tough situation because Bidens admin shouldn’t have let them in in the first place. The government caused the issue, they can fix it

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- LifeInMultipleChoice@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
  No they didn’t. The chief of police of new Orleans instructed his men and the national guard to do so under marshall law. FEMA has no authority to do any such thing. Then Congress signed a bill to make it illegal for that to ever happen again.
  
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  - pivot_root@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
    I see you’ve just met Kaboom. It would be wise to add a tag for future reference.
    
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- Fandangalo@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
  “Bidens should have let happen”. Come on. Pew research shows immigration rose, but not to some new peak. The world is going to shit due to everything.
  
  I don’t think facts will dissuade you. So here’s a national landmark instead:
  
  Give me your tired, your poor, your huddled masses yearning to breathe free.
  
  Statue of LIBERTY. Hopefully it’ll still be up & relevant in 4 years if we don’t destroy one another…
  
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  - Kaboom@reddthat.com ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
    A poem on a statue isn’t law and often times isn’t good advice for all situations
    
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