Submitted 5 months ago by simple@lemm.ee to games@lemmy.world
https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2024/06/paradox-interactive-completely-cancelled-life-by-you/
Very surprising. The game looked like it had a lot of potential and could’ve been the most popular sims alternative, but it’s suddenly been cancelled.
Oof. Wasn’t this the one that was going to have in-depth object customization? I was looking forward to it from a dollhouse-building perspective. Even if it wasn’t great, having some competition might convince EA to allocate more dev resources to the Sims, which has ruthlessly embraced the “minimum viable product” philosophy for a long time.
i dont know if its MVP or if they are just taking as low a risk as possible on their investments. they have no financial incentive to try anything new
Well HECK! I have been advertising this game to every gamer I know, finally a Sims game that’s not EA… :( I was very hopeful when they delayed without a new date, just take your time and get it right. Dang, I was really looking forward to this
Paradox is just as bad as EA with DLC. Look at Stellaris, or Victoria, or cities skylines, or surviving mars
They sell you a product at a fair price without putting it behind a loot box, unless I missed something. I don’t think that makes Paradox “just as bad” because they make a lot of DLC that you could choose to not purchase.
Yeah. Pdx went the same shit route as EA by now, even have subscriptions too. Doesn't matter if I have to through hundreds of bucks at EA or Pdx for a single game. It's both the same shitty principle.
Yeah, but having the games in competition would force then to try to win players to their side over the alternative, for both of the games. It would have been nice to have an option when playing this genre.
Thanks a lot for sharing, i’ve wishlisted that!
I’m not really that upset considering it was going to end up the same as The Sims (with its content in DLC piecemeal) anyway, coming from Paradox.
Should be noted that paradox was just publishing it, not developing
So… Paradox tectonic is not related to paradox…? Are you sure?
Sad. In a way, it is amazing that Sims 3 is 15 years old now and still, no game is able to match it.
There’s some ageless classics. HoMM3 came out 25 years ago and is still pretty much the top of its genre. Freespace2 more or less shut down the spacesim genre 25 years ago, as well…
boo. Oh well, at least there’s that other sims-like in development i’m blanking on the name of.
My biggest complaint about Sims-likes is that the visual style always looks too serious. It gives me the feeling that whatever I’m going to do with my not-Sims, it’s gonna be something that makes me regret my real life.
You wanna know what I did the last time I played the Sims 2 though? I repeatedly held parties at my Sim’s house and then lured the guests into a room they couldn’t get out of. I also used the moveobjects cheat to collect police cars whenever a cop showed up to shut the party down. By the time I was done I had amassed around 70 urns, many hysterical immortal Sims (Sims with households can’t die while visiting someone’s house in the Sims 2), 4 Police cars and a fire truck.
The Sims has a mischievous air to it that tickles the devil on your shoulder and begs you to listen to them. None of the Sims-likes I’m aware of seem to have the same air.
This ain't right
My Sim grew weed and played PC games
Kerbal Space Program has a similar vibe, and other space sims take themselves way too seriously to be fun.
RIP KSP2
Well, this is fucking depressing…
well we still have paralives right?
im interested in it but i don’t know if it will kill the sims
No surprise.
I was really shocked when I saw the videos they released a while ago. Game ran like shit and looked even worse.
Yup… It looked like a really bad attempt at photo realism in 2024. At this point you either need to use cartoon-like graphics or some sort or actually pull off the photo realism.
It was pretty obvious that game was never going to reach either of those marks.
I was definitely excited for the prospect of a Sim’s competitor, but this wasn’t going to be it… I think they did the right thing pulling the plug.
I love ACNH’s style where people are cartoony, but furniture is more detailed.
Stylized graphics would have not helped with the performance, or the mismatching scale of objects & people, or the garbage UI structure, or the garbage game structure. The whole thing was just amateurish and cheap looking.
Do by chance mean Stardock not Paradox? I was unable to google anything about Paradox and the Star Control IP but lots about Stardock came up. But if it was them could you pass me some links I was unable to find anything.
Before you go spouting off the mountaintop, might want to make sure you know what you're talking about. It's clear that you have no clue.
Probably because it would be the death of Sims is why it was canceled this way.
What in the actual fuck are you on about?
Wow people here don’t comprehend the third order calculation
Ea regularly buys out or pays off anyone who makes sim competitors.
Look it up.
Honestly that’s for the best, the game looked awful all around.
bionicjoey@lemmy.ca 5 months ago
It’s a shame. But based on what I saw about it, it looked like maybe they had some delusions about using LLMs for character dialogue, which seems like an insanely complex feature to build into an already complex game.
ThePantser@lemmy.world 5 months ago
Why? It can’t be much more than using one of those chatbot girlfriends. I know there could be delays as it takes time to generate but it could have a local version that just is a stripped down version that just processes dialogue. Probably requires a beefy GPU though.
bionicjoey@lemmy.ca 5 months ago
You’d need the conversations to be highly constrained in order to not break the game. Currently there are too many ways of “jailbreaking” LLMs.