In b4 someone tells me 6 isn’t out yet
The elder scrolls, online
Elder scrolls
Submitted 8 months ago by Track_Shovel@slrpnk.net to [deleted]
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rayf@lemmy.zip 8 months ago
RatzChatsubo@lemm.ee 8 months ago
Anyone else hate the trend of removing arrow buttons?
namingthingsiseasy@programming.dev 8 months ago
I hated the trend of flat buttons. Then they removed the buttons. Then they basically removed the entire scrollbar altogether.
At this point, I’d happily go back to the age of flat buttons. That’s how bad things have gotten…
hydrospanner@lemmy.world 8 months ago
I am not a fan of the general trend of de-buttoning.
Like… isn’t the entire point to make things consistent and intuitive? Make a clickable button visually distinct!
NaoPb@eviltoast.org 8 months ago
What I hate is how in Firefox in Linux I only have these tiny “slim” scrollbars that hide when not in use.
EddoWagt@feddit.nl 8 months ago
I’m sure you can disable that behaviour
basxto@discuss.tchncs.de 8 months ago
I didn’t notice much since generally don’t have the arrow buttons and I wouldn’t use them. I use arrow keys, pagination keys, home/end key, scroll wheel/motion, drag the bar or click somewhere to jump there. Those buttons were always quite tiny.
But the behavior of my scrollbar looks like this: slides in on use or when the mouse gets moved; gets fatter when hovered
Though hiding stuff sucks indeed.
Aasikki@sopuli.xyz 8 months ago
Someone actually uses those?
Heavybell@lemmy.world 8 months ago
Yes.
Chadus_Maximus@lemm.ee 8 months ago
No.
hark@lemmy.world 8 months ago
I like 1998 the most. Easy on the eyes and doesn’t distract from the content that would appear on the side, but has enough pop to indicate that it can be interacted with.
Psythik@lemmy.world 8 months ago
For me it’s the XP scrollbars that do it for me, cause I was sick and tired of the BSoDs I got during the Win9x era (especially in WinMe). I couldn’t wait to get a PC with the newer OS as a teen. It was considerably more stable for me (especially after SP2).
SomeGuy69@lemmy.world 8 months ago
2024, scrollbars? What scrollbars? We decided that you don’t need them. Sorry but your adblocker and script blocking, broke our own shitty implementation of scrolling. Please enable all scripts for our large ad family to feast on your data.
Waffelson@lemmy.world 8 months ago
I really hate sites that change scrolling It always looks weird and uncomfortable. Who thinks this is a good idea?
wesker@lemmy.sdf.org 8 months ago
I yearn to return to 1998.
vampire@lemmy.world 8 months ago
Just install linux and change your gtk/qt theme. It’s that easy.
NaoPb@eviltoast.org 8 months ago
It does suck that Linux copies the same terrible themes from Windows and that the older more accessible themes are becoming incompatible with modern Linux distros.
I just want a Linux that looks like a computer from 1998. Be it Windows, Mac OS X or native Linux.
superduperenigma@lemmy.world 8 months ago
It’s easily the best option on this image. Nothing else even comes close in terms of visual clarity and simple aesthetics.
Gork@lemm.ee 8 months ago
I’m not a huge fan of the flat button aesthetic. Give me the 3D-esque buttons and the translucent Aero window frames of Windows Vista.
Our GPUs, even the integrated ones, are powerful enough for it now.
user224@lemmy.sdf.org 8 months ago
I am scared of the Plasma 6 upgrade. I currently have oxygen theme with a bunch of stuff like lamp minimizing effect, fall apart effect when closing windows, wobbly windows when moving or resizing them, animated rainbow mouse pointer (XP style). Also the loading mouse icon when opening programs is the programs icon jumping up and down.
I am not sure all of it will work on Plasma 6.zeroblood@lemmy.ca 8 months ago
I can verify that lamp minimizing, and wobbly windows work on plasma 6 (Arch btw). The only things that stopped working for me were a couple widgets that I found out haven’t been updated in like 8 years.
nom_nom@lemmy.ml 8 months ago
2006 was the peak
Hjalamanger@feddit.nu 8 months ago
I actually prefer 1988, the haven’t managed to improve it at all
deegeese@sopuli.xyz 8 months ago
It worked well in 1988, but in a world of dark mode UIs you can’t tell which is the highlighted area without contour shading.
Eheran@lemmy.world 8 months ago
Combining 2006 and 2009 would be ideal. High contrast etc.
cley_faye@lemmy.world 8 months ago
I miss visible, usable scroll bars. Now they’re replaced with… nothing, because we want everything to be invisible while keeping a lot of empty space in modern designs, it seems.
UFODivebomb@programming.dev 8 months ago
My favorite is that you can’t see if content is actually off screen sometimes. No scrolbar to indicate and often those clean lines just look like the end of the content. Horrible
ItsAFake@lemmus.org 8 months ago
Did anyone ever rock Windows Longhorn when they were developing vista?
Raptor_007@lemmy.world 8 months ago
Yep, I sure did. For quite a while too, as I recall. I think I was too scared to move to it permanently and dual-booted with WinXP. First time I saw the status bar of a copy or install processing and seeing it do the …rolling colors in the filled in portion I thought something was wrong. I was used to a static status bar where it just filled in and didn’t do anything fancy.
sylver_dragon@lemmy.world 8 months ago
I remember Windows XP coming out and we all mocked it as Windows but with an interface by Crayola. But I’d gladly have that Crayola interface back rather than the flat modern crap we have now.
basxto@discuss.tchncs.de 8 months ago
I actually like 1988.
ULS@lemmy.ml 8 months ago
It’s definitely the superior scroll bar.
Flashback956@feddit.nl 8 months ago
I used all of them, I’m feeling old now.
slingstone@lemmy.world 8 months ago
And now I’m blind. Thanks!
mossy_@lemmy.world 8 months ago
You should’ve known better, the moth priests have to train for years to use these
MrFunnyMoustache@lemmy.ml 8 months ago
In 2012, Tiber Septim achieved Chim and erased the scrollbar textures.
xia@lemmy.sdf.org 8 months ago
I seem to recall Apple going through a phase when they put both arrows on both sides of the scrollbar.
cloudless@lemmy.world 8 months ago
What will be released first? Elder Scroll 6 vs new Windows scroll bar?
over_clox@lemmy.world 8 months ago
Where’s the 1984 text only version?
AVincentInSpace@pawb.social 8 months ago
fin@sh.itjust.works 8 months ago
laughs in Thinkpad
bruhduh@lemmy.world 8 months ago
I feel there’s missing one
Seasoned_Greetings@lemm.ee 8 months ago
Simplifying the most recent scroll bar feels like a huge step backwards to me. It really is the epitome of modern tech needlessly boiling down to its basic visual aspects to emulate a “clean” environment for the users.
Give me back my scroll bar texture damnit
Switorik@lemmy.zip 8 months ago
This. Holy shit is it frustrating to click a pixel wide scroll bar that is on the edge between two monitors. It’s even worse when they disappear.
aksdb@lemmy.world 8 months ago
Not just scrollbars. Buttons, input fields, etc.
Dammit I sometimes have to search for elements I can interact with. Back in the day it was self explaining.
axsyse@lemmy.sdf.org 8 months ago
I recently had a complaint with a website:
“Users are having trouble scrolling!”
My response:
“Are they using the scroll wheel/directly scrolling with the touchpad, or using the scroll bar?”
They were, of course, using the scroll bar. I am now somehow responsible for design choices made at the level of the browser, because browsers have decided that the scroll bar should be nigh impossible to use. Yippee.
Eheran@lemmy.world 8 months ago
UIs get worse all the time, very frustrating. Who needs contrast, right? I have good eyes and know exactly where to look. My mother? Holy shit no chance.
EyIchFragDochNur@feddit.de 8 months ago
Not necessarily the contrast but when i work I NEED FUCKING BORDERS FOR MY FUCKING BRAIN TO KEEP FUCKING STRUCTURE AND NOT EVERYTHING FADING OUT INTO …yeah thanks i lost the thread again
Theharpyeagle@lemmy.world 8 months ago
At least on the bright side, people are becoming much more aware of accessibility. I’d argue that old sites were accessible mainly on accident due to most being restricted to fairly straightforward CSS and HTML. The advent of Javascript was a dark time…
namingthingsiseasy@programming.dev 8 months ago
It’s really depressing how often I have to turn off CSS entirely just to view a webpage. I could of course always go into the inspector and turn off the bad CSS, but Gecko-based browsers fortunately have “View -> Page Style -> No Style” which is must easier and faster.
And seriously, whoever invented the
font-weightCSS property can burn in hell. Ditto for whoever decided that we should only be allowed to read light grey text on slightly lighter grey background.SpaceCowboy@lemmy.ca 8 months ago
Its the epitome of technology that as it improves some things become obsolete.
Pretty much every mouse has a scroll wheel on them now. I very seldom click on a scroll bar now. So the design has changed with that consideration in mind.
Seasoned_Greetings@lemm.ee 8 months ago
It’s a design choice, not a question of obsolescence. If it were, we’d be talking about their decision on removing the scroll bar, not changing it.
At the very least the style change could have been optional.