Drag never tips while eating out.
Drag also lives in a country with a livable minimum wage and no tipping culture.
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Cruxifux@feddit.nl 1 month ago
Tipping is bullshit. Restaurants should pay their workers properly. But I’m not gonna punish the server for that. She has zero control over that.
If I can’t afford to tip then I just don’t go to the restaurant. People would prefer to make up excuses for why they don’t wanna tip and how that doesn’t make them an asshole while taking huge huffs of their own farts. If you don’t like the tipping culture just go to a fast food restaurant or make your own food. Why is everybody such whiney bitches about everything?
dragonfucker@lemmy.nz 1 month ago
Cruxifux@feddit.nl 1 month ago
Well yeah, if you live in a country where they make a decent amount so that tipping isn’t necessary for them to be able to eat that day then of course you shouldn’t have to tip. That’s the way it should be everywhere. But in many countries like the US this isn’t the case, and tipping has been used as a way for restaurants to pay next to nothing to employ people and the servers are at the mercy of kindness from the people serving them. Lots of these people think that they should just be slaves that serve them for free and justify it by blaming the restaurant, which is just shifting responsibility and making weak excuses for being entitled and cheap.
dragonfucker@lemmy.nz 1 month ago
Drag remembers being a pre-teen with little understanding of the world, and going onto internet forums. Drag would sometimes take advice from Americans, who felt very strongly about what they were saying, and then get in trouble because that’s not how we do things here. The Americans didn’t clarify their advice was only for Americans. And drag was just a kid, so drag didn’t know any better. It’s not like drag made an account and commented, drag was just reading what a bunch of supposedly wise adults had to say about life and the world.
TriflingToad@sh.itjust.works 1 month ago
where does drag live?
dragonfucker@lemmy.nz 1 month ago
A small Asian country
Sop@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 month ago
Why do you assume the waiter is a she?
Cruxifux@feddit.nl 1 month ago
Oh dude just fuck off, gender is not important for the point.
Sop@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 month ago
It’s not an attack, you don’t need to get so defensive. It just stood out to me.
Cruxifux@feddit.nl 1 month ago
Because serving is a female dominated service where I am I guess?
dragonfucker@lemmy.nz 1 month ago
Exactly, gender isn’t important. You could have done the convenient thing and they/themed the imaginary waiter. Why did you choose to go to the effort of assigning a gender when gender has nothing to do with your point?
Cruxifux@feddit.nl 1 month ago
Because it doesn’t actually matter what gender I used so I went with she and didn’t put much thought into it. I didn’t think people would be so soft headed as to actually give a shit because it isn’t relevant to the point at all. If I had said “he” nobody would have given a shit, something is wrong with y’all.
TherapyGary@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 month ago
This could’ve been an “oops, you’re right- corrected, thanks.” But instead you got weird about it
Cruxifux@feddit.nl 1 month ago
Nah, the people who are hyper focused on the gender of the server as opposed to their actual quality of life in these situations are the weird ones.
RedditWanderer@lemmy.world 1 month ago
This place is just as toxic as reddit lol, it was a valid question.
Cruxifux@feddit.nl 5 weeks ago
It’s not certain places online that are toxic. It’s the internet at large.
TimewornTraveler@lemm.ee 1 month ago
my guess is cuz the server in the Reservoir Dogs clip this is referencing is a she
BruceTwarzen@lemm.ee 1 month ago
Can you just not tip? We live in a tipping society too, but tipping is just goodwill. Like if your waiter is really nice, and the whole thing was 115 dollars, you might give him 120 and he can keep the difference. Sometimes just a roundup, fromm 5.60 to 6 bucks or something. But it’s not expected.
Fuck_u_spez_@sh.itjust.works 1 month ago
Presumably, your country pays its servers a living wage so they don’t have to scrape by on tips. This has been the state of the US labor market in most non-fast food restaurants for decades:
A tipped employee engages in an occupation in which he or she customarily and regularly receives more than $30 per month in tips. An employer of a tipped employee is only required to pay $2.13 per hour in direct wages if that amount combined with the tips received at least equals the federal minimum wage [$7.25 per hour]. If the employee’s tips combined with the employer’s direct wages of at least $2.13 per hour do not equal the federal minimum hourly wage, the employer must make up the difference. Many states, however, require higher direct wage amounts for tipped employees.
TimewornTraveler@lemm.ee 1 month ago
If you don’t like the tipping culture just go to a fast food restaurant or make your own food.
You know in other countries there’s restaurants that specialize in different dishes. They make stuff that you might not know how to make. They make stuff in bulk that’s hard to make to-order. There’s a lot of reasons why you might eat out rather than make it yourself.
Tipping isn’t essential to this place. If you specialize in making pigs feet and you open a pig feet restaurant, you can charge people whatever you want them to pay for your pigs feet, and if they want it they pay it. But if you expect to hire waitstaff to do all the customer service, you better pay them a fair portion of what you’re charging customers. Giving them pennies and then telling customers “Oh just pay the help whatever you want, it’s extra” is just fucking evil. But instead of one shitty business model drying out, it became the norm in only your country.
Yet another case of a stupid american not understanding how the world works outside of america… no vision of how things could work otherwise. Just arrogance and contempt.
Cruxifux@feddit.nl 1 month ago
I don’t live in the US bro. But this post is obviously about tipping culture in the US. This is not an issue in other parts of the world where tipping is expected so that the servers aren’t getting starvation wages.
TimewornTraveler@lemm.ee 5 weeks ago
I’m sorry what? You never lived in the US and yet you’re gonna say what you think the solution to tipping culture is? Look I try not to assume that people are American but the alternative to you not being American and making a post like that is you being fucking stupid
Cruxifux@feddit.nl 5 weeks ago
I live in Canada. We have the same issue. Why is it that Americans constantly think of the world in terms that they’re the only people that exist in it? Most of you don’t even attempt to not look like total morons. But seriously, go ahead and try to justify not tipping as being anything but you being cheap and entitled. It’s just going to make people think you’re stupid on top of you being cheap and entitled.
Fuzzy_Red_Panda@lemm.ee 1 month ago
Customers are NOT punishing staff by refusing to tip.
Our school teachers all did a great job at getting us to blame other students when when one student did something bad and the teacher punished all of us for it. My teachers did this gaslighting bullshit many times when I was in school. And now a whole new generation of adults are perpetuating the cycle. But it’s wrong.
The restaurant owner is the one to blame for poor wages. The owner will say that the restaurant cannot afford to stay open otherwise. This is probably true. Many – if not most – restaurants in america cannot afford to exist unless they effectively steal wages from their workers. We either need legislation to fix this, or we need to let these restaurants die.
RedditWanderer@lemmy.world 1 month ago
He is the one to blame lol, we all agree.
When you go to the restaurant, pay the food (owner) but not the waiter, you are playing right into the owners game (who is to blame).
So congrats on supporting the assholes creating this economic problem (they can’t run a profitable business). Next youre going to tell me human traffickers are the assholes and people should just stopped getting trafficked and leave. Because power dynamics have nothing to do with this of course.
ddplf@szmer.info 1 month ago
So you hate the tipping culture but also hate people who want it abolished. That’s just beyond stupid.
Cruxifux@feddit.nl 1 month ago
No, I hate the people who say they want it abolished and use that as an excuse to not pay their waiters. I made it plainly clear in my explanation, I honestly don’t know how to dumb it down for you anymore man.
kautau@lemmy.world 1 month ago
Lol yeah the “I went to the restaurant but didn’t tip to teach everyone a lesson” is the same as “I voted for the third party to teach everyone a lesson.”
No, you gave the restaurant owner their profit and the employee nothing. You helped no one, you taught no lessons, and if we could harness your mental gymnastics as physical gymnastics we would have infinite renewable energy.
GreyEyedGhost@lemmy.ca 1 month ago
Since a lot of places require the employees be paid at least minimum wage including tips, it would impact the owner directly and immediately…if everyone stopped tipping.
RedditWanderer@lemmy.world 1 month ago
Like not tipping is going to abolish anything. You walk in, pay the owner and leave the worker hanging. Why would the owner care?
It’s not like all the waiters can stay home waiting for something to change, people gotta live. Stop going to restaurants if you don’t want to tip
Sarmyth@lemmy.world 1 month ago
To be fair, that’s not the actual alternative for the waiter. The waiter either accepts their income as it is with some people not providing a tip, or they can opt for other employment like the rest of the workforce that isn’t tipped. They don’t have to sit at home waiting for things to change like helpless puppies.
I’m in California though so we don’t have any of that wage fuckery where they can be paid less than minimum wage if tips make up a significant portion of their income. It’s $17.55 hour minimum plus tips where I’m at.
I’d really rather see tipping outlawed along with all other obscured fees and just pay what you need to pay to have waiters and charge what you need to charge to have a business transparently printed on the menu.
RedditWanderer@lemmy.world 1 month ago
Ahh yes other employment! How come nobody ever thought of that… Just get another job of course.
It’s so ridiculous of an answer ill go back to arguing with those who think they shouldn’t tip.
ddplf@szmer.info 1 month ago
Why do you hate me for not wanting to tip, and not the employer who does not want to pay a living wage to it’s worker because the law does not oblige him to.
Why do you blame me and not the government who regulated the law to allow rich people to become more rich by having part of their salary expenses covered by the public?
This is a perfect of privatizing the profits and socializing the losses
RedditWanderer@lemmy.world 1 month ago
This makes 0 sense it’s not even worth responding too properly.
You just want to eat for cheap, give the employer his money and skimp on the workers. If you really didn’t want to support tipping culture, youd stop going to restaurants entirely.
BruceTwarzen@lemm.ee 1 month ago
I HATE EVERYONE