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oce@jlai.lu ⁨1⁩ ⁨week⁩ ago

It’s a battle of political ideologies.

ml is administered by the creators of Lemmy, they are openly socialist/communist/tankie depending on your own ideology, ml was chosen to represent Marxism-Leninism, and so the people it attracted are generally also adhering to this kind of ideologies.
.world was created for Redditors exile, as such, it is mostly center-left to social democrat.

Political extremists tend to extremise everything, typically a tankie will call you a Nazi/fascist if you disagree with them. That’s one of your answer.

Secondly, some ml people are frustrated that Lemmy is not their own little thing anymore for them and their friends, as world is the biggest instance now by far. So they show some kind of instance-xenophobia, not much different from the Great Replacement theory: “we are being culturally replaced through mass migration”.

Not all .ml people are like that of course. In my experience, it is enough to block a few tankies to get back to civilized discussions.

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Jake_Farm@sopuli.xyz ⁨1⁩ ⁨week⁩ ago
I have had way more issues with .ml communities that .world

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- deegeese@sopuli.xyz ⁨1⁩ ⁨week⁩ ago
  ML was basically designed to be an echo chamber, it’s right there in the name.
  
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  - alcoholicorn@lemmy.ml ⁨1⁩ ⁨week⁩ ago
    .world is the one that “preemptively defederated HB and grad, as a last resort” due to such scary views as opposing NATO and the IMF.
    
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    Thrashy@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨week⁩ ago
    There are sophisticated and nuanced critiques to be made of Western power projection, soft and hard. “Nuanced” and “sophisticated” are not words appropriate to the average hexbear or lemmygrad denizen’s take on geopolitics, and for those of us who live in the real world rather than living to argue over how many Maos can dance on the tip of the icepick that killed Trotsky, the loud and unrelenting naysaying of anything less extreme than “armed proletarian revolution now!” got to be incredibly tiresome.
    
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    Quacksalber@sh.itjust.works ⁨1⁩ ⁨week⁩ ago
    Go visit hexbear.net/PPB (nsfw) for a good reason why one might want to defederate from them.
    
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    OpenStars@discuss.online ⁨1⁩ ⁨week⁩ ago
    Strawman arguments and other such logical fallacies as these are why I user blocked lemmy.ml. It’s too bad they still show up from Lemmy.ml accounts everywhere I look:-(.
    
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    Klear@sh.itjust.works ⁨1⁩ ⁨week⁩ ago
    Fuck off tankie
    
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  - noisefree@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨week⁩ ago
    
    ML ~~was~~ is basically ~~designed~~ moderated to be an echo chamber, it’s right there in the name.
    
    FTFY (though, I’m mostly being sarcastic here - like most things, moderation there is a mixed bag from community to community).
    
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- Soup@lemmy.cafe ⁨1⁩ ⁨week⁩ ago
  Everyone has. That place is a toxic shithole.
  
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  - Maeve@midwest.social ⁨1⁩ ⁨week⁩ ago
    I haven’t.
    
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    acosmichippo@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨week⁩ ago
    give it more than 14 days.
    
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  - fuckingkangaroos@lemm.ee ⁨1⁩ ⁨week⁩ ago
    I mean… a toxic shithole? Really??
    
    I think of it as more of a cancerous shithole.
    
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    Soup@lemmy.cafe ⁨1⁩ ⁨week⁩ ago
    A toxic, cancerous shithole of vapid piasfarts incessantly salivating on themselves while climbing over one another to be top edgelord in a community that fails to produce both edge, or lords.
    
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sp3tr4l@lemmy.zip ⁨1⁩ ⁨week⁩ ago
I made the mistake of being an anarchist on ml and hexbear.

Waay, waaaaaay too many tankies getting insanely pissed off and swarm when you criticize (point out obvious facts, really) any non US/Western countries or allies along anarchist lines.

It rapidly devolves into idpol, rants and tirades that are barely related to the topic or comment, Fox News style ‘I’m just asking questions in good faith’ which are obviously not in good faith if you’re older than maybe 10.

I dare someone to go ml or grad or hex and attempt to have a serious and thorough conversation about the Sino-Vietnamese war. Or Uighurs. Or the Holodomor. Or whether the concept of self-determination applies to Ukraine, Taiwan, and Palestine at the same time.

I remember at one point explaining a meme that popped up on some China’s social media site that boiled down to ‘Deng Xiaoping’s reforms have led to Chinese women craving giant Black cocks’, and all of them being just fine with incels and racism when its not Westerners doing it.

Craziest part is when they horseshoe so hard that you have ‘communists’ arguing that LGBTQ are degenerate vermin. Although that is more rare, it does happen.

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- db0@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨1⁩ ⁨week⁩ ago
  
  Or whether the concept of self-determination applies to Ukraine, Taiwan, and Palestine at the same time.
  
  That’s the hypocrisy that pisses me off the most. I don’t know how someone can support resistance by any means for Palestinians but seriously suggest Ukrainians are nazis for resisting an imperialist invasion.
  
  PS: there’s at least 2 anarchist instances on Lemmy 😉
  
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  - xor@lemmy.blahaj.zone ⁨1⁩ ⁨week⁩ ago
    Slightly off topic, is db0 one of the anarchist instances you’re referring to? I know it’s a generally leftist instance, but don’t know much more detail than that
    
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    db0@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨1⁩ ⁨week⁩ ago
    Yes, that’s my instance :) it’s run by anarchists and has an anarchist CoC and general vibe. slrpnk is the second.
    
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- alcoholicorn@lemmy.ml ⁨1⁩ ⁨week⁩ ago
  
  Craziest part is when they horseshoe so hard that you have ‘communists’ arguing that LGBTQ are degenerate vermin
  
  That’s an instaban from hb, grad, and .ml, did you report that post?
  
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  - GBU_28@lemm.ee ⁨1⁩ ⁨week⁩ ago
    I’ve seen bans there for Calling out horseshoe theory. As if it’s a slur
    
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  - dragonfucker@lemmy.nz ⁨1⁩ ⁨week⁩ ago
    Anarchists aren’t allowed to report queerphobia on Hexbear. Because Hexbear keeps banning anarchists.
    
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    alcoholicorn@lemmy.ml ⁨1⁩ ⁨week⁩ ago
    One of the admins, Nakoichi, is an anarchist. But please point me at the queerphobia, I’m not banned from hb, I’ll report it, I have faith they’ll do something about it.
    
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    Cowbee@lemmy.ml ⁨1⁩ ⁨week⁩ ago
    This is false. Anti-AES anarchists are banned.
    
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  - sp3tr4l@lemmy.zip ⁨1⁩ ⁨week⁩ ago
    No, I was already banned from a bunch of communities for discussing the aforementioned things and I just blocked the instances … 6 months ago I think?
    
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- Objection@lemmy.ml ⁨1⁩ ⁨week⁩ ago
  
  Craziest part is when they horseshoe so hard that you have ‘communists’ arguing that LGBTQ are degenerate vermin. Although that is more rare, it does happen.
  
  If someone claims something happened on the fediverse without providing a link, they’re lying.
  
  The culture where these sorts of blatant lies are accepted without question is my biggest problem with .world. You can have whatever actual beliefs you want, but lying like this is really despicable.
  
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- Cowbee@lemmy.ml ⁨1⁩ ⁨week⁩ ago
  Please show any sources for this garbage, these are all bannable offenses on Grad, Hexbear, and .ml.
  
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- OpenStars@discuss.online ⁨1⁩ ⁨week⁩ ago
  Oh people have tried I’m sure. They are banned now.:-)
  
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Soup@lemmy.cafe ⁨1⁩ ⁨week⁩ ago
I’ve yet to see a tone in .world ban someone simply for having a political affiliation. The taking communities flat-out ban for being “liberal.”

Granted, it’s been a while since I e seen this happen, the admins/mods there do not hide their bias.

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Illuminostro@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨week⁩ ago
Agreed. The “Eat Ass” vs the “No Eat Ass” culture war is getting out of hand.

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- Lost_My_Mind@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨week⁩ ago
  I’m not against eating ass, but it depends who’s ass it is.
  
  First off, I’m only eating female ass. Secondly, she’s gotta be above 25 years old…and even that’s kinda young. Thirdly, she’s gotta shower well. I want that butthole to be CLEAN! And lastly, I gotta love her. I’m not just gonna go out on a first date at The Olive Garden, and then go home to her place and start eating ass! Hey, how’dya do? MUNCH MUNCH MUNCH!!! No, I have to have a connection to her.
  
  So I’m not “No Eat Ass”, but I’m not 100% pro “Eat Ass” either. But I guess you guys would just call me a centrist, and I’d get attacked from both sides for not being far enough on their side.
  
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  - Illuminostro@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨week⁩ ago
    Brother (I assume you’re a male, but it doesn’t matter either way,) you do you. If it’s consensual with an adult, like you state, it’s all good.
    
    I, on the other hand, am not going to put my mouth where literal shit excretes. Even if it’s had 3 enemas through it. But I will linger elsewhere. All the best.
    
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    Lost_My_Mind@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨week⁩ ago
    I mean…which flavor are the enemas?
    
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    GBU_28@lemm.ee ⁨1⁩ ⁨week⁩ ago
    Look at what this country has come to!
    
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  - Rai@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨1⁩ ⁨week⁩ ago
    I first ate my partner’s ass after dancing at a rave for hours, at 2AM, on copious amounts of MDMA, no shower.
    
    I’m undoubtedly Team Eat Ass.
    
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BuboScandiacus@mander.xyz ⁨1⁩ ⁨week⁩ ago
“Nazis” flooding lemmy to replace the poor tankies (c. 2023):

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P4ulin_Kbana@lemmy.eco.br ⁨1⁩ ⁨week⁩ ago
Extremism :- (

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Archer@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨week⁩ ago
I hope people point out that they and the fascists both agree on Great Replacement theory lol

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