Comment on if you're not going to let me do this microsoft then let me turn off auto restart all together.

chris@l.roofo.cc ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

• sanpo@sopuli.xyz ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  You know what else is unsafe? Letting Windows force the auto-update and break your bootloader (and that’s just their latest fuck-up).

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• cupcakezealot@lemmy.blahaj.zone ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  i don’t want to disable updates; i want to disable the random auto restart.

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  • SzethFriendOfNimi@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    It’s basically saying that it needs a 4 hour window for potential updates. Hence why it can’t be more than 18 hour difference.

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    • SpaceNoodle@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      18 + 4 = 26

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      • RaccoonBall@lemm.ee ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        Not usually

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      • SzethFriendOfNimi@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        Oh wow. I’m so dense. Good catch. If you’ll excuse me I’m going to chug more caffeine since I obviously need it.

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    • Kusimulkku@lemm.ee ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      It’s basically saying that it needs a 4 hour window for potential updates

      That’s messed up in itself

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  • possiblylinux127@lemmy.zip ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    It isn’t random. You just set a maintenance window and don’t care

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• underwire212@lemm.ee ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  Because it’s his computer and he should be able to do whatever the hell he wants with it?

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  • Kyatto@leminal.space ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    Her*

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  • henfredemars@infosec.pub ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    The hardware might be yours, but the license agreement is quite deliberate in restricting what you’re allowed to do.

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    • Mango@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      This isn’t the zinger you think it is.

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      • henfredemars@infosec.pub ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        It’s just an opinion. I’m OK with having opinions that others disagree with. It makes the world a more interesting place, even if some of them might be wrong.

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  • ryathal@sh.itjust.works ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    It’s not their internet though.

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    • Mango@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      Yes it is.

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• Cephalotrocity@biglemmowski.win ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  Because new updates are going to implement ads in the Start Menu of Win10.

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  • NegativeLookBehind@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    Do you have a moment to talk about our lord and savior, Linux?

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    • Cephalotrocity@biglemmowski.win ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      Image

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    • Plopp@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      Sure, Mr. Penguin, come right in. Can I offer you a… fish?

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      • possiblylinux127@lemmy.zip ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        So long and thanks for all the fish

        So sad it had to come to this

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• r00ty@kbin.life ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  I would agree, but there's been at least two updates in the last six months that restarted my machine before I even got to see the pending restart warning. I use it every day and shutdown if I won't be. So the restart happened less than 24 hours after any warning if there even was a warning.

  That has the potential to lose things I'm working on. Windows pathetic attempt to bring things back falls woefully short of functional.

  Flash up alerts to say there's critical updates, but the action to actually restart should be a human interaction.

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• JohnDClay@sh.itjust.works ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  Because Microsoft is updating to add ads to the 10 start menu is one reason. Security probably outweighs that, but it’s super annoying.

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• dohpaz42@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  If CrowdStrike has taught us anything, it’s that blindly trusting automation can be equally (if not more) disastrous.

  It’s one thing to ask me to update, but give me options; including to not update. There are machines out there in the world that still run Windows 95. They are vital to manufacturing processes, and cannot be updated because they run software that is no longer updated and there is no inexpensive alternative. It happens.

  While that may not be the case in this circumstance, the point is that it’s up to the operator to determine when it’s time to update, not Microsoft.

  Anecdotally, the only reason Microsoft does this is because people historically do not update their software regularly. Why? Because it’s burdensome and problematic. Whose fault is that? I’ll give you three guesses; the first two don’t count.

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  • possiblylinux127@lemmy.zip ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    If you stay up to date it won’t force you to update. The problem is when you keep putting off updating. It is the same for any system.

    Also the manufacturing type machines are not internet connected and are in a high security environment.

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    • thebestaquaman@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      The point the other commenter is making, which I fully agree with, is that I can have legitimate reasons for not wanting to update. Windows shoving updates down my throat when they can potentially break critical stuff on my machine is pretty much just equivalent to forcing malware on me.

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• SteveFromMySpace@lemmy.blahaj.zone ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  I don’t like auto updates. I make time to do routine updates of all my software on my time. I don’t need my computer suddenly shutting down on me, but most importantly, I don’t need major projects to get borked. Often times I finish anything I am working on or at least make quick backups before running an update.

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• henfredemars@infosec.pub ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  There was a time when I would’ve believed this and there was actual transparency regarding what was in those updates. They can also break your system because you are the tester. They fired all their QA long ago.

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