Maybe to 12, a lot of people stuck with 7 until 10, because 8 sucked. A lot of people stuck with XP because Vista sucked. A lot of people are sticking with 10 because 11 sucks.
If 12 is shit, perhaps Linux will finally get its day.
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pacoboyd@lemm.ee 6 months ago
I’ll probably get down voted to oblivion, but I remember EVERYONE had the same “I’ll never move” rhetoric with Windows 7, and before that Windows XP. Ya’ll eventually move.
I’ve moved 3 of my 6 windows boxes from 10 to 11 and it’s not that much different. I just debloat the stuff I don’t want and move on. Even that isn’t different, ya’ll remember nlite? We’ve been ripping crap we didn’t want out of the Os for as long as I can remember.
Hell, I even remeber getting doublespace.exe off my old dos 5 disks so I could use it on my dos 6 and Windows 3.1.1 install. People who use Windows are just more used to tearing down what they don’t want rather than building up what they do (*nix). Is it harder these days…marginally…is there more to remove…yup. But it’s still the same crap we’ve always done.
warm@kbin.earth 6 months ago
fuckwit_mcbumcrumble@lemmy.dbzer0.com 6 months ago
Windows 11 is essentially just 10 with a theme over it. 90% of the hate for Windows 11 also applies to 10. The only real new thing is the hardware requirements.
dustyData@lemmy.world 6 months ago
11 has ads, AI and other annoyances crammed in.
fuckwit_mcbumcrumble@lemmy.dbzer0.com 6 months ago
Windows 10 had ads from the start. That was the biggest complaint about it on release, and the fact that people hate 11 and are ok with 10 on that baffles me.
And somewhat coincidentally the bing shit was added to 10 before 11 got it.
fushuan@lemm.ee 6 months ago
I wish. Most stuff I used to do now has extra clicks required, the right click 7z panel, the process monitor kill process button (now hidden on a submenonor on a right-click), and I can’t put the taskbar vertically!!! I use two monitors, I’m used to having it on the right monitor, on the left vertically. The reasoning was that not many people move their taskbar, and while that might be true after some regex modifications, the only thing that’s as completely broken if you put the taskbar vertical was the news buttoj pop-up (it didn’t align correctly), which is basically ads, and I’m completely against them gutting features because their ads need extra work (not that much work, just work).
Besides that, having a fat suggested apps bar on the windows menu that takes 30% of the space is a thing again, which is ad space too. Great
Anyway, KDE is cool. Thanks Microsoft, I would have persevered if it wasn’t for the vertical taskbar, now I’m happier.
pacoboyd@lemm.ee 6 months ago
Classic right click menu is a regkey away. Classic control panel is still there too. I have 4 monitors, task bar on all of them, not sure why yours doesn’t. Apps even go to the appropriate task bar per monitor when minimized. Suggested apps size can be minimized. They only should you “ad” ones on first boot, otherwise gone once you remove them. Me thinks you just like to complain lol
fuckwit_mcbumcrumble@lemmy.dbzer0.com 6 months ago
There’s no reason 7zip can’t be in the default right click menu other than laziness. Devs have had the option to add stuff to that menu since the start, but it wasn’t until 2023 that they really started actually supporting it. Nanazip is 7zip with a Windows 11 UI and it supports the menu. Image
SuperSpruce@lemmy.zip 6 months ago
W11 is also just slower than W10 for no reason. The file manager especially is quite slow.
warm@kbin.earth 6 months ago
Haven't kept up with it, but that certainly wasn't the case on release. Theme is subjective of course, but I much prefer 10 myself.
alsimoneau@lemmy.ca 6 months ago
And then there’s weird people like me that prefered Vista and 8.1 over 7 and 10.
DarkThoughts@fedia.io 6 months ago
Ya'll eventually move.
Yeah, I moved to Linux.
pacoboyd@lemm.ee 6 months ago
Me thinks Lemmy isn’t great at representing the larger world. Lots of tech folks here.
Dozzi92@lemmy.world 6 months ago
Yes, it’s SysAdminWorld for sure, and I’m reminded of it on any post that’s even remotely tangentially related to Windows.
grue@lemmy.world 6 months ago
I remember EVERYONE had the same “I’ll never move” rhetoric with Windows 7
I did eventually move… to Linux. Windows 7 was the last version of Windows I’ve had installed on any machine I own.
scrubbles@poptalk.scrubbles.tech 6 months ago
Honestly 11 was finally the push I needed to try Linux as my main driver. Gaming finally got to the point where I could switch. The only thing they made in 11 that was beat was AutoHDR. Everything else was annoyance to me.
paraphrand@lemmy.world 6 months ago
Why is windows still bloated after all these decades?
fuckwit_mcbumcrumble@lemmy.dbzer0.com 6 months ago
Did you expect them to remove features over time?
LucidNightmare@lemmy.world 6 months ago
“Features” lmfao!
In all seriousness, remove actual beneficial features? No. Remove the shit that people have been complaining about for ages? Yes, but I guess we are all in on losing people eventually.
sanguinepar@lemmy.world 6 months ago
They removed the Quick Launch toolbar in Win11 - main reason I didn’t even consider moving.
I have just recently discovered a way to bring it back, but it’s not exactly optimal.
HeyThisIsntTheYMCA@lemmy.world 6 months ago
Dude stop reminding me how old I am. I just discovered arthritis bones that my favorite grandma decided to give me this morning.
pacoboyd@lemm.ee 6 months ago
Cheers mate!
Mango@lemmy.world 6 months ago
I moved away, but not to newer windows.
DAMunzy@lemmy.dbzer0.com 6 months ago
I completely forgot about doublespace and all the XX-DOS stuff was when I was a teen. Had fun messing around with DR-DOS and wish I would have found Linux back then.
Thorny_Insight@lemm.ee 6 months ago
I never upgraded from Win 7. I used in untill Steam stopped its support and now my gaming rig runs on Linux.
originalucifer@moist.catsweat.com 6 months ago
i absolutely moved... from 7 to linux. no regrets.
toddestan@lemm.ee 6 months ago
Well, if you’re sticking with Windows, you really have no choice. The sun is rapidly setting on using Windows 7 as a “daily driver” - a lot of new software doesn’t support it and the older versions that work on Windows 7 are getting less and less viable. Windows 8 is in the same boat as Windows 7. Windows 10 goes out of support next year, but you’ve probably got to 2028 or maybe 2029 before you really have to move.
I ended up riding Windows 7 to pretty much the bitter end. Steam dropping Windows 7 support last December was it for the last Windows box. Everything now is running Linux.
DharkStare@lemmy.world 6 months ago
The difference this time is that my computer literally can’t run Win 11. I’m not throwing away a perfectly good PC just because of Win 11’s hardware requirements.
tuxrandom@kbin.social 6 months ago
Especially not for such enragingly artificial hardware requirements. Any computer able to run 64-Bit Win XP would probably run Windows 11 just fine if Microsoft hadn't decided to build instructions that only work on recent CPUs into the kernel specifically to make it not run on older hardware.
NewNewAccount@lemmy.world 6 months ago
Assuming Microsoft is acting nefarious here, what would there motivation be to lock out older hardware?
YerbaYerba@lemm.ee 6 months ago
To sell new hardware with new OEM windows licenses
dohpaz42@lemmy.world 6 months ago
They could probably reduce the support needed for drivers that support said older hardware. I would imagine some of those drivers are probably hard to maintain. That’s my guess anyway.
KISSmyOSFeddit@lemmy.world 6 months ago
If you still need/want to run Windows 11, you can download the ISO from Microsoft, and burn it to an USB Stick using Rufus.
Rufus lets you disable all those requirements.
But I wouldn’t count on it working forever. Any Update could break your OS, cause Microsoft expects you to install it on conforming hardware.
valkyre09@lemmy.world 6 months ago
If I wanted an operating that could break from a regular update I’d just install Arch!
KISSmyOSFeddit@lemmy.world 6 months ago
What breaks Arch is people thinking
pacman -Syuis enough to keep it running.wiki.archlinux.org/title/System_maintenance
Klanky@sopuli.xyz 6 months ago
So I WAS on 11 until all of the sudden my computer refused to boot with the special hardware thing enabled. Had to downgrade to Windows 10 and the mobo manufacturer’s response was ‘try replacing every other part in your PC’…sorry I don’t have the money to have spare parts of everything just lying around. 10 works perfectly fine, and it’ll give me an excuse to upgrade my mobo in Oct 2025. :-)