i grew up poor and did most of those things, except from the organic whole foods stuff.
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kryptonianCodeMonkey@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
People who live longer:
People who drink a glass of wine every night.
People who buy organic and cook whole foods at home.
People who spend 30+ minutes a day being activr/at the gym.
People who get 9+ hours of sleep every night.
People who have less chronic stress.
People who get regular checkups/screenings at the doctor.
So… rich people that have the time and can afford to do all of those things or have them done for them.
TubularTittyFrog@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
TranscendentalEmpire@lemmy.today 2 weeks ago
There are different levels of poverty that vary drastically in quality of life, and are highly dependent on what region you live in.
Being poor basically anywhere in Europe is a lot easier than being poor in America. Being poor in a state like California or New York is going to be easier than being poor in Oklahoma or Alabama.
Different regions have different local governments that have a huge impact on the social safety network afforded to the working poor and the disabled.
In my experience, I haven’t known very many poor people who weren’t disabled that had a lot of extra free time on their hands. Good habits are hard to keep when you work two to three jobs 6-7 days a week to make a wage that barely pays the bills.
Eq0@literature.cafe 2 weeks ago
“Two to three jobs” is already a statement that in Europe would apply to basically no one, while it’s a common reality in US
TranscendentalEmpire@lemmy.today 2 weeks ago
Yeap, an unfortunate side effect of “Obamacare” mandating corporations provide coverage for full time employees was everyone cutting hours back to make sure no one was full time. Labour laws here are a joke.
kryptonianCodeMonkey@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
I had to sell all my free time for some ultra-processed foods
Naive@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
How does wine taste? I really wanna taste wine before I die.
awfulawful@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 weeks ago
It varies dramatically for different types of wine, even within the broad categories (red, white, rosé, etc.). Some wines are grapier and will be reminiscent of juice you’ve had. Others are further away from that. Invariably they will taste different if you’ve never had wine before, even moreso if you’ve not had alcohol.
If you are interested in wine for the experience, I’d recommend situations where it’s well-paired with food. The best wine I’ve ever drank has been with good food that complemented it.
ayyy@sh.itjust.works 2 weeks ago
The crazy thing about wine is that it tastes wiiiiiiiiiiildly different based on the grape and process.
Naive@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
fermentation plays an important role in determining the taste i guess.
ToastedRavioli@midwest.social 2 weeks ago
A good bottle of wine is only in the $20-$30 range. IMO, every wine I have ever had that costs more than $30 is not any better than wine that is $30. Ive tried quite a bit of different stuff up to $75-$300 bottles that I got for free. None of it was worth more than a $30 bottles, at least to my palette. The one exception probably being Veuve Cliquot champagne, which is really good but costs like $50.
There is a pretty big difference between a $7 bottle of wine and a $30 bottle of wine though. Honestly wine is kind of an acquired taste, and there are a lot of varieties. If you want something good but also cheap then you cant go wrong with a $10 bottle of sweet table wine. Any other kind of wine its worth it to spend for something in the $20-$30 price range
Naive@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
I am not American and where I live, wine is illegal (exceptions are there and loopholes too) so it is difficult for me to drink wine in my community and country.
Rivalarrival@lemmy.today 2 weeks ago
The basic recipe for wine is grape juice, yeast, and time, and yeasts are everywhere. It’s not hard to “accidentally” turn an opened bottle of grape juice into wine.
nyctre@piefed.social 2 weeks ago
Depends on the wine. I wanted to see for myself so I bought 2 bottles from the same producer. Same type of wine and stuff as well. One bottle was 25-ish€ and the other was 80-ish. I could instantly tell which the more expensive wine was. Then I asked my wife to taste without telling her which is which. She could also instantly tell. Was it worth the price? Fuck no. I usually buy in the 10-15 range from a guy that I trust since supermarket stuff is hit and miss and I like trying new ones, not just buying the same one every time.
ToastedRavioli@midwest.social 2 weeks ago
I suppose thats kind of what I meant. For sure there are actual differences between a $30 bottle and an $80 bottle, but after $30 it is mostly a game of massively diminishing returns. A $60 bottle of wine is nowhere near as good of a value as two $30 bottles of wine. A $300 bottle is sure as shit nowhere near good enough to be better than the value of 10 $30 bottles
heartSagan5@lemmy.zip 2 weeks ago
I had a nepo coworker gloat about spilling $500/bottle champagne in NYC for his birthday party. I said, “why aren’t you drinking that?” Sick.
kryptonianCodeMonkey@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
Tastes a lot like grapes that have gone off, actually. So just imagine that. Maybe you’ll live longer.
Naive@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
Well I don’t wanna live longer. I wanna enjoy everything in this life before I die.
OwOarchist@pawb.social 2 weeks ago
Here for a good time, not for a long time.
Maeve@lemmygrad.ml 2 weeks ago
You’re not going to “enjoy everything,” or even “experience everything,” in one lifetime. That said, you should try some things, given an opportunity. And some of the most valuable experiences may well be ones you didn’t particularly enjoy. But enjoyment need not make a slave of us, and is also nice.
flamingo_pinyata@sopuli.xyz 2 weeks ago
If you haven’t tried it because you have to avoid alcohol, good news - alcohol free wine is hitting the market.
Tbh, it’s not the most amazing example of wine, but the ones I tried were not awful either. It would give you a good how wine tastes like.
Naive@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
I wanna drink alcohol bro.
rollin@piefed.social 2 weeks ago
personally I don’t think any alcoholic beverage tastes good - at least not the traditional ones like wine, beer, spirits. I do still drink and have done since I was a kid because it does make you feel kind of happy and socialising is easier and more enjoyable. (just two or three drinks though - more than that and it starts having negative effects)
natecox@programming.dev 2 weeks ago
There are notable exceptions, but in general:
White wine: candy.
Red wine: asshole.
OwOarchist@pawb.social 2 weeks ago
Pretty terrible, honestly. My review is: “Ugh, this grape juice has gone really bad!”
Naive@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
what is amaretto?
captainlezbian@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
Almond flavored liquor, it tastes sweet and nutty
OwOarchist@pawb.social 2 weeks ago
Maeve@lemmygrad.ml 2 weeks ago
What is social murder, Alex?
Devial@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
The glass of wine is likely due to a selection bias in Tea Total people. Most people who are completely sober, are so either because they are recovering alcoholics, or have other health issues.
Most people who are healthy and have no prior alcoholism issues drink at least occasionaly, which introduces a selection bias favouring people with health issues as strict non drinkers, which causes not drinking at all to be correlated with worse health than drinking occasionally.
TheLeadenSea@sh.itjust.works 2 weeks ago
Idk… a lot of gen Z people I know just don’t drink at all
tmyakal@infosec.pub 2 weeks ago
OP is referring to the j-curve historically seen in studies about drinking. Because researchers didn’t control for people who stopped drinking after years of abuse or people who couldn’t drink because of other health issues, it looked like having 0 drinks per day led to worse health outcomes than 1-2 drinks per day. Because of that, many health organizations spent decades telling people that 1-2 drinks per day was better for you than 0 drinks per day.
Someone finally controlled for those variables a few years ago, and the j-curve vanished. Most health organizations now say they’re is no amount of alcohol that is safe to consume.
So it’s got nothing to do with Gen Z drinking habit specifically, and the science has been corrected since. But a lot of people still internalized and parrot the “1-2 drinks is healthy” thing.
jdr@lemmy.ml 2 weeks ago
No amount of alcohol is safe? Is that like saying no amount of driving is safe?
gandalf_der_13te@feddit.org 2 weeks ago
i get what you’re saying, but what i’m wondering is, while alcohol is bad for your liver and damages your health in that way, it also leads to social occasions and less loneliness, i guess. so you might have psychological improvements; and was that also tested for?
porous_grey_matter@lemmy.ml 2 weeks ago
Yeah but these (usually flawed) studies that have wormed their way into the public consciousness were done long before gen z was drinking age. From up-to-date information it’s pretty clear that any amount of any kind of alcohol is quite bad for you. Obviously increasing with quantity.
TubularTittyFrog@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
because they can’t afford it.
novibe@lemmy.ml 2 weeks ago
That might have something to do with it. But gen-z seems to have more a purity culture than millennials and gen-x had.
Many are very into exercise and fitness from a very young age. Control their diets. Sleep super early, get up early.
They are going less to clubs (and shitty dive bars). Doing less drugs. Having less sex.
You can say its all because of money. But broke teenagers and young adults of previous generations had their fun, went out, destroyed their bodies. You know, it can be REALLY cheap to get fucked up and well, get fucked or fuck.