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BorgDrone@feddit.nl ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

• cannedtuna@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  Have you considered maybe it’s easier to navigate and plan a grid pattern? I wouldn’t mind uninspired street names like 1st, 2nd, 3rd St, crossways with N, O, P, Q Ave so you at least know which direction is which. Give me that chess board layout so I don’t need to pull up a map to navigate your city please. Car C1 takes Bar G5

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  • baines@piefed.social ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    and then 14th SE doesnt connect with 14th NE

    thanks portland

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    • Rocketpoweredgorilla@lemmy.ca ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      My city has a street that changes name 4 times as you go down it.

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      • daychilde@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        Better than Atlanta that names every road Peachtree :)

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      • dylanmorgan@slrpnk.net ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        Are you in Austin? Because Austin has that.

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      • AngryCommieKender@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        Lexington, KY? They have several that do that.

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  • HerbalGamer@sh.itjust.works ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    Sure but you’ll never encounter the magic of a crooked alley snaking its way through a maze of medieval building.

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    • protist@retrofed.com ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      Istanbul blew my naive American mind when I visited

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      • The_v@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        Tunis, Tunisia. The old town was something else.

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    • MedicPigBabySaver@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      Not medieval, but, Boston has some good alleys, nooks, and crannies.

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  • CultLeader4Hire@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    Yes! I can get up so much speed on those straight roads! Blow through a few stop signs and I can easily drive all the way through a house!

    Easy navigation isn’t relevant in a neighborhood of nothing but houses and play space, roads with curves are incredibly important to slow the flow of traffic

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    • compostgoblin@piefed.blahaj.zone ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      There’s a flipside too though. Straight lines aren’t great for suburbs for the speed reason, but once you reach enough density and the roads get narrow enough, grids make planning easier, and navigating easier for pedestrians. Roundabouts are a nice way to slow traffic through straight roads

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      • CultLeader4Hire@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        Ok? So put straight roads in your cities and high density areas. Neighborhoods of just houses aren’t what you’re describing

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      • daychilde@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        Straight roads have little to do with driver speed. It’s how you design the roads. Wide lanes with buildings set back from the road? Higher speeds. That’s why some initiatives put curbs that jut out into the road (not into the lanes of travel) with trees and plants and such, and remove road striping. Combine pedestrians and road traffic on a road that looks more like a parking lot and you get drivers driving slowly. Sounds counter-intuitive, but it works.

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      • Cevilia@lemmy.blahaj.zone ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        Yeah, pedestrians aren’t really a consideration in this kind of town planning.

        If they were, they would’ve put in sidewalks. Which they didn’t.

        Can’t really have it both ways.

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    • protist@retrofed.com ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      You don’t need curves to slow traffic, there a ton of ways to slow traffic

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  • BorgDrone@feddit.nl ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    Over here in 2026 we have satnav in our cars and on our bikes.

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    • LordMayor@piefed.social ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      You have to understand that there are places in the USA where “city planning” is completely unheard of. They seem to let landowners develop however the fuck they want. They end up with grids of identical houses with little thought of connections to services such as shopping, healthcare, recreation, etc.

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  • MonkderVierte@lemmy.zip ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    Have you considered maybe it’s easier to navigate and plan a grid pattern?

    With every corner looking the same? What a joke.

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    • compostgoblin@piefed.blahaj.zone ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      Only from above. When you’re on foot, grid systems feel plenty variable and lively

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• Hawke@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  Not better:

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  • Evil_Shrubbery@thelemmy.club ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    Same car dependency grid but from different socioeconomic posh level.

    (Actually the density is lower, so as a suburb it’s worse & traveling distances/city area larger.)

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  • MonkderVierte@lemmy.zip ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    What’s this?

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    • protist@retrofed.com ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      A common American suburban development

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    • Hawke@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      A “modern” design, the current trend of shitty suburban layout that seems to be the alternative to the grid layout complained about.

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  • SapphironZA@sh.itjust.works ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    Agree, all the roads lead nowhere.

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• Danarchy@lemmy.nz ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  Lived on a grid the last 15 years and it objectively rules. The “objectively” part is the appreciating property values of the home I just sold, which outpaced those of cul-de-sac homes is my area over that same timeframe. Grid gang 4 lyfe

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  • Saapas@piefed.zip ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    Are those the two options, grid or cul-de-sac

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