Comment on Lutris now being built with Claude AI, developer decides to hide it after backlash
deadcade@lemmy.deadca.de 2 weeks agoIt’s still made by the slop machine, the same one that could only be created by stealing every human made artwork that’s ever been published. (And this is not “just one company”, every LLM has this issue.)
Not only that, the companies building massive datacenters are taking valuable resources from people just trying to live.
If the developer isn’t able to keep up, they should look for (co-)maintainers. Not turn to the greedy megacorps.
If the developer isn’t able to keep up, they should look for (co-)maintainers.
Same energy as “Just go on Twitter and ask for free voice actors,” a la Vivziepop. People think this kind of shit is super easy, but realistically, it’s nearly impossible to get people to dedicate that kind of effort to something that can never be more than a money sink.
I was under the impression that FOSS developers do it for the love of the game and not for monetary compensation. They’re literally putting the software out for free even though they don’t need to. They are going to be making this shit regardless.
My point was “Help me with my passion project for nothing” is a much harder sell. “Just find some help,” is advice along the lines of “Just get in a plane and fly it.”
That is what they are technically doing but they often don’t always consider the consequences and often react poorly when they realize that an Amazon (it whatever) comes along and contributes nothing and monetizes their work while dumping the support and maintenance on them.
That is the name of the game though if you use an MIT license.
At this point, teachers do it “for the love of the game”, but they still want to get paid more than minimum wage.
Absolutely true, but there’s one clear and obvious way; drop support for the project yourself.
If a FOSS project is archived/unmaintained, for a large enough project, someone else will pick up where the original left off.
FOSS maintainers don’t owe anyone anything. What some developers do is amazing and I want them to keep developing and maintaining their projects, but I don’t fault them for quitting if they do.
If a FOSS project is archived/unmaintained, for a large enough project, someone else will pick up where the original left off.
No, they won’t. This line of thinking is how we got the above.
Hey, if your project is important enough you might get your own Jia Tan (:
Speaking only on the programming part of the slop machine, programmers typically copy code anyways. It’s not an ethical issue for a programmer using a tool that has been trained on other people’s “stolen” code.
rofl don’t quit your day job
Just like how every other human artist learned how to draw by looking at examples their art teacher gave them, aka “stealing it” in your words.
LLMs are not sentient and they’re not learning.
bookmeat@fedinsfw.app 2 weeks ago
A few years ago we were all arguing about how copyright is unfair to society and should be abolished.
wirelesswire@lemmy.zip 2 weeks ago
Sure, but these same companies will drag you to court and rake you over the coals if you infringe on their copyrights.
Deceptichum@quokk.au 2 weeks ago
More reason to destroy copyright.
Normal people can’t afford to fight the big companies who break theirs anyway. It’s only really a tool for big businesses to use against us.
WalrusDragonOnABike@reddthat.com 2 weeks ago
Because its used to benefit megacorps in practice. This situation is just more proof of that.
everett@lemmy.ml 2 weeks ago
Copyright is what makes the GPL license enforceable.
p03locke@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 weeks ago
The GPL license only exists because copyright fucked over the public contract that it promised to society: Copyrights are temporary and will be given back to public domain. Instead, shitheads like Mark Twain and Disney extended copyright to practically forever.
everett@lemmy.ml 2 weeks ago
I don’t understand your position here. If we went back to a more reasonable 7 or 14 year copyright term, how would that obviate the need for a license like the GPL, which permits instant use of code provided you share-alike? Those shorter copyright lengths would be pretty reasonable for books or movies, but would still suck for tech.
Luminous5481@anarchist.nexus 2 weeks ago
Licenses only matter if you care about copyright. I’d much rather just appropriate whatever I want, whenever I want, for whatever I want. Copyright is capitalist nonsense and I just don’t respect notions of who “owns” what.
astro@leminal.space 2 weeks ago
It is offensive to me on a philosophical level to see that so many people feel that they should have control, in perpetuity, over who can see/read/experience/use something that they’ve put from their mind into the world. Doubly so when considering that their own knowledge and perspective is shaped by the works of those who came before. Software especially. It is sad that capitalism has so thoroughly warped the notion of what society should be that even self-proclaimed leftists can’t imagine a world where everything isn’t transactional in some way.
iamthetot@piefed.ca 2 weeks ago
Who is we? I wasn’t.
Bronzebeard@lemmy.zip 2 weeks ago
Yeah people making that argument were dumb. Copyright needs to be fixed, not abolished.