People’s moral compass got seriously screwed over the past couple years. They hate america so much that they think every enemy of america is literally the reincarnation of jesus christ.
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ceenote@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
Wait, how did Saddam Hussein get into heaven?
realitaetsverlust@piefed.zip 2 weeks ago
backalleycoyote@lemmy.today 2 weeks ago
Believing Saddam is in heaven would require believing in some sort of god/afterlife/good place vs bad place, and I assure you the vast majority of people who make satirical memes commenting on the United States once again using the excuse of “WMDs!” don’t believe in that. This is gallows humor, grim laughter at being fed the same bullshit time and time again. It’s the by-product of burnout when the regime changes but the narrative remains the same.
What has happened in America (and globally) is that digital interfacing has removed all the nuance, non-verbal, and tonal clues that would clue others in that satire is not endorsement. It relies on the belief that the listener/reader is literate enough to understand that what is being offered is not meant to be taken at face value. It can be true that Saddam was a piece of shit and that it wasn’t America’s place to take him out under false pretenses. I wouldn’t shed a tear if the mango turd got sent to Hell (metaphorically, since I don’t believe in Hell), but I would still be perturbed if his ticket was checked by some foreign nation that I knew didn’t actually give a fuck about me and my community or what came next for us.
realitaetsverlust@piefed.zip 2 weeks ago
satire is not endorsement
A few years ago, I would have agreed with that statement. But I’ve read people on lemmy unironically saying “Hitler was at least sorta right” and so I just can’t really believe that anymore.
backalleycoyote@lemmy.today 2 weeks ago
If you know it’s being said unironically than you know it’s not satire, it’s just endorsement.
Slovene@feddit.nl 2 weeks ago
That’s how it is over on lemmygrad and other .ml instances
FudgyMcTubbs@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
It’s really strange. I believe war is bad and the ends don’t justify the means, but the Iranian regime needs to be replaced. Both are true at the same time. There must have been a way to affect that change without violence, but I don’t know what that way is.
Trump is terrible, but that doesn’t make the Ayatollah good.
Now I’m rambling.
captainlezbian@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
Exactly, he needed to be replaced, but it needed to be done in a way that creates a stable and free Iran with the capacity to exert its own will. This is just a repeat of Afghanistan but somehow dumber
ArgumentativeMonotheist@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
It’s that silly all-or-nothing thinking. Just because America, Israel and Western vassals are objectively THE main world villains of the past few decades (and Western Europe before that, but that’s a different convo) doesn’t mean that everyone they attacked were saints, lol.
realitaetsverlust@piefed.zip 2 weeks ago
Just because America, Israel and Western vassals are objectively THE main world villains of the past few decades
It’s very hard for me to understand how russia is not on that list in the first spot ngl.
ArgumentativeMonotheist@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
Yeah, Russia, the country that invaded, couped and otherwise subjugated the majority of the world, the country with almost countless military bases around the world, the country of Native genocide, chattle slavery, gunboat diplomacy, three letter agency destabilisation, etc etc. You’re dipped head to toe in propaganda, my friend, you just don’t know it but today you can begin to learn. So no, there’s no comparison, the closest American historical peers are the British and French empires, and then Rome, I guess.
moakley@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
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Complains there’s no nuance anymore.
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Provides the second least nuanced take ever.
ArgumentativeMonotheist@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
How come? If that position had to be taken by anyone, who would you place there besides the usual suspects I just mentioned? It still doesn’t make Saddam someone who might see Heaven, at least IMO…
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VaalaVasaVarde@sopuli.xyz 2 weeks ago
He couldn’t stay in hell, after he broke up with satan.
ceenote@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
Oh yeah, that makes sense. Hopefully Satan finds a better partner who deserves him.
Kolanaki@pawb.social 2 weeks ago
Yeah, uh… He ended up with Trump. They’re having a butt-baby.
samus12345@sh.itjust.works 2 weeks ago
The baby hanged itself (allegedly) in the womb and they broke up.
gnutrino@programming.dev 2 weeks ago
How can I delete someone else’s comment?
cm0002@lemmings.world 2 weeks ago
Hey! You changed your pfp! Lmao
spitfire@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
Like „the aristocrats”?
SkunkWorkz@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
Trump is fucking Satan