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Solumbran@lemmy.world ⁨8⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

• Damarus@feddit.org ⁨6⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

  The American mind cannot comprehend this

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• captainlezbian@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

  We killed the predators on a lot of our continent. Deer hunting is ecologically necessary here. And thats before we get into the boar problem

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• ArgentRaven@lemmy.world ⁨7⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

  The overwhelming majority of bullets are used against paper or steel targets. Most hunters take the entire carcass for butchering, so the eagles aren’t eating lead from animals shot and left in the wilderness. And given the volume needed, I wouldn’t be surprised that they’re eating fragments fired at steel targets that they mistake for rocks to keep in their stomach to grind up food.

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  • Catoblepas@piefed.blahaj.zone ⁨1⁩ ⁨hour⁩ ago

    This is untrue, gastroliths are associated only with birds that eat plants. They grind up food, which isn’t necessary for meat. Eagles eat bullets from animals that have either been shot and abandoned, lost, or had parts of them discarded as zqxwas pointed out.

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  • zxqwas@lemmy.world ⁨5⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    Don’t know what they do over there, but we usually get the lungs and guts out as soon as possible in order to keep the meat from spoiling. Long lived predators that likes to scavenge can develop lead poisoning from those remains if it’s their main source of food.

    If confusing with rocks was the main source you’d expect it to be just as common in other birds.

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  • Solumbran@lemmy.world ⁨7⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    That’s why I also mentioned to stop shooting guns. If you are shooting in such an unsafe way that fragments fly around and get lost, then you shouldn’t be allowed to shoot in the first place.

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    • kn33@lemmy.world ⁨6⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      You’re not familiar with the concept of an outdoor target range, are you?

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      • Solumbran@lemmy.world ⁨6⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

        Yeah, it is a problem.

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• IchNichtenLichten@lemmy.wtf ⁨6⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

  Plenty of people hunt for food. Lead ammo should be avoided though.

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• Gullible@sh.itjust.works ⁨7⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

  I think you might have some ontologically incongruous standards. We are crazy apes. You can take the guns away, but the murder will persist for millennia, if not gene edited out. Banning the guns and lead bullets is more likely to work than expecting humanity to spontaneously diverge from its evolutionary roots of the bang bus murder ape

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  • Solumbran@lemmy.world ⁨7⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    I don’t know, humans are good at diverging from their instincts when it comes to letting sick people die, but when it comes to killing less, they cannot anymore?

    I think that low-ass standards are what prevent humans from getting any better, if you start justifying mindless murders as “just instinct” then of course people will be fine with it. And funnily enough, that’s one of the main arguments that hunters use, saying that they’re just doing something “natural”.

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    • Gullible@sh.itjust.works ⁨6⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      We are killing less. And overwhelmingly so. If you don’t count faceless, recontectualized packaged cow, chicken, and pig meat. We’re also still pretty good about keeping our close group alive, but medicine men, insurance, and numbers over 100 are a strictly cultural practice not cemented within our genetic memory in any meaningful way, so society as a whole suffers under the burden of our limited empathy.

      You can also get into the economics of governance to get a good look at what it would mean to move the systems in place enough to reach the sort of universal socioeconomic safety that you’d personally find acceptable. I’m a fan of Europe’s deal… up to a point.

      I really don’t mean to cut things off, but the scope of this conversation would necessarily reach so incredibly wide that I don’t believe I can keep your attention or mine for a dozen pages of philosophy, biology, anthropology, history, psychology, and economics. In short, I, personally, can only expect people to fit neatly into a groove so long as it isn’t too far removed from the one we dug a hundred thousand years ago.

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  • SinningStromgald@lemmy.world ⁨7⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    … bang bus murder ape

    Adding that into my book of wonderful phrases.

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    • Gullible@sh.itjust.works ⁨6⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      Just don’t credit me, I’m pretty sure I plagiarized it in part from elsewhere

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