The Wii made me absolutely rage because those consoles were region locked, preventing me from playing titles I had imported from other countries that weren’t published by Nintendo north America. I never spent money on Nintendo products after that. The rest of my family was still happy with Nintendo, and they have continued to purchase their consoles. I finally got my wife invested in PC gaming 2 years ago, and it warmed my bitter heart to hear she wanted a steam deck instead of the switch 2.
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jordanlund@lemmy.world 2 days ago
The Switch 2 is the first console I’ve just outright skipped in… well… years now. I guess since the Wii U?
Just every piece of news about it as it was coming out made it sound less and less appealing…
$70 games (that never get discounted because Nintendo.)
Games aren’t “games”, they’re download keys.
Special SD cards that are more expensive.
Microphone support requires a subscription after 1 year.
Charging $10 for a hardware demo that should be included, like Desk Job on the Steam Deck.
And, like you say, the remote detonation option, which is burning legitimate players:
gadgetmatch.com/nintendo-switch-2-lawsuit-bricked…
Generally with new hardware it’s “Hey, what’s not to like?”
With the Switch 2 it’s more “What is there to like?”
Washedupcynic@lemmy.ca 2 days ago
missingno@fedia.io 2 days ago
That was always the case for Nintendo's home consoles, not like it was a new thing that started with the Wii. Switch was the first one to be region-free.
Washedupcynic@lemmy.ca 1 day ago
This was not the case for Nintendo consoles in the past. I imported plenty of NES, SNES, GC, GB, GBA, and DS carts that were published in Asia/Europe, but not published in the Americas, and had no issues playing them until the Wii. Those consoles I just mentioned were all region free.
missingno@fedia.io 1 day ago
NES and SNES were region-locked. In addition to an actual lockout chip, they even had different cartridge shapes so you couldn't physically fit Famicom or Super Famicom games.
Handhelds were not (until DSi and 3DS), but I specifically said home consoles.
ampersandrew@lemmy.world 1 day ago
Correct me if I’m wrong, but wasn’t region locking on the NES and SNES largely implemented via the shape of the cartridge? Frank Cifaldi and the VGHF just put out that NES history video, and it had some kind of authentication chip that could only be provided by Nintendo, and it was in the NES but not the Famicom. And on Gamecube, I seem to remember you needed an Action Replay to break the region locking, but I never dabbled in it myself.
k0e3@lemmy.ca 1 day ago
NES, SNES, and GC were definitely region locked.
IchNichtenLichten@lemmy.wtf 2 days ago
Too expensive, too enshittified for me to consider. All they had to do was not fuck this up and they would’ve had a guaranteed sale but I don’t ever see myself spending a cent on Nintendo ever again.
Tollana1234567@lemmy.today 14 hours ago
also pokemon being trashed by gamefreak incensed alot of switch/nintendo fans too.
mienshao@lemmy.world 1 day ago
[deleted]noxypaws@pawb.social 1 day ago
How is either Switch not enshittified when you have to pay a monthly subscription to backup your saves?
RamRabbit@lemmy.world 1 day ago
you have to pay a monthly subscription to backup your saves
Jesus fuck.
eronth@lemmy.world 1 day ago
Did they ever support that for free?
IchNichtenLichten@lemmy.wtf 1 day ago
it is not enshittified … call it anti-consumer
Same difference?
Dojan@pawb.social 1 day ago
It’s not enshittified because the Switch was already shit.
kinkles@sh.itjust.works 2 days ago
“Never discounted” is just factually untrue, though. They never reach Steam-sale levels, sure, but I’m looking at $70 Tears of the Kingdom for $47 USD right now on Woot. I’ve purchased a fair number of Switch 1 games for around $40 in the last year and some (like Mario & Luigi Brothership and Super Mario RPG) went for as low as $25 USD around Black Friday.
RamRabbit@lemmy.world 2 days ago
Tears of the Kingdom for $47 USD
That’s the thing. Such being considered a ‘discount’ is why people say Nintendo doesn’t discount games.
jordanlund@lemmy.world 2 days ago
I picked up Advance Wars 1+2 Reboot for my kid for Christmas. $60 still after coming out in 2023.
nintendo.com/…/advance-wars-1-plus-2-re-boot-camp…
(* “My kid” - He’s 29, he should br buying his own games! LOL.)
Tollana1234567@lemmy.today 14 hours ago
i was planning to get a the first switch, with pokemon dint because of how bad the quality it was, and due to them admitting all future POKEMON games are going to be this way was the biggest turn off.
RamRabbit@lemmy.world 2 days ago
jordanlund@lemmy.world 2 days ago
Yeah, but you don’t give pirated goods as gifts. 😉
I still have the OG Advance Wars carts for my GBA.
THE_GR8_MIKE@lemmy.world 2 days ago
I love mine. The FPS boost alone in Zelda and Pokémon made it worth it for me. Cheaper than the GPU I want for my computer too. Then again, I went all in on the Switch in 2017 after skipping the Wii U, so more performance is fine with me. I do wish there was more stuff announced, though.
MeekerThanBeaker@lemmy.world 2 days ago
I skipped the Switch because I did get the Wii U. They abandoned that system too quickly due to poor sales so I was a little bitter. I almost went with the OLED, but decided to continue waiting since I had other systems and PC to play on. It’s the first Nintendo console I have ever skipped.
I did pick up the Switch 2, however, so I get to play all the games I missed over the years and any new ones. Glad I don’t have to wait so long on loading screens for Zelda like I did on the Wii U… which was painfully long.
My Switch 2 is pretty much strictly my Nintendo machine. And yeah, just have to wait for them to come out with more 1st party games. I usually buy 3rd party games on other systems because the graphics tend to be superior.
THE_GR8_MIKE@lemmy.world 1 day ago
Oh yeah, watching my girlfriend play her Switch 1 now is agonizing. Her birthday is coming up and I think I know exactly what I’m going to be getting for her.
Games like Zelda now load so fast you can’t even see your stats on the loading screen. And ya know, that’s an okay problem to have.
VindictiveJudge@lemmy.world 2 days ago
Games aren’t “games”, they’re download keys.
Generally agree with your post, but a large majority of games really are games. If they’re a download key, it’s very clearly labelled on the box.
scala@lemmy.ml 1 day ago
The point they are probably trying to make is with a key you don’t own the game like you would with a hardware cartridge in older Nintendo systems. So you own nothing on the switch.
VindictiveJudge@lemmy.world 1 day ago
And the point I’m making is that only a handful of games are keys; the vast majority are still on the cart, same as the last system.
Krompus@lemmy.world 2 days ago
Yep, Switch 1 was much more interesting, and I still skipped it in favour of PC / Steam Deck.
OnfireNFS@lemmy.world 1 day ago
It’s funny. I feel like with the switch 2 Nintendo finally listened to the fans who were saying they just want an incremental improvement. Just make the switch with a better processor. But they really just got too greedy with it and made it an incremental improvement in the worst way possible. Paid online, $70 games which never go on sale, paid switch 2 upgrade packs, LCD screen, digital download physical games.
It’s an incremental upgrade done as horribly as possible, it feels like people are struggling right now and Nintendo is trying to extract every dollar out of customers then wonders why the console isn’t doing well.
For me it’s a hard sell because like at that price why wouldn’t I just buy a steam deck. I don’t have to buy any new games, I don’t have to pay for upgrade packs to have my games run on it, I don’t have to pay for online services. I’m not going to have to rebuy games if I buy a steam frame or steam machine. It also has seamless save transfers, and steam is famous for its sales.
It’s just funny because I feel like people were asking for a switch with more power but now that it’s here like why would you buy it over a steam deck.
Also to top it off Nintendo’s lawyers are aggressively going after emulators, streamers and modders. Why would I want to support a company so hostile to its own community
Tollana1234567@lemmy.today 14 hours ago
i skipped the first new switch, due to pokemon swsh, never regretted it, and many accurately predicted how bad it is with pokemon.