And an ad blocker should be part of everyone’s personal and organisational security model regardless, so you’d have to install ublock and specifically turn it off for YouTube.
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LinkOpensChest_wav@lemmy.one 8 months ago
I’m sure it’s much harder to manage a Premium subscription than it is to simply install uBO
cooopsspace@infosec.pub 8 months ago
ThunderWhiskers@lemmy.world 8 months ago
That isn’t really an option for Android.
yhvr@lemm.ee 8 months ago
IDew@lemm.ee 8 months ago
Didn’t know about Grayjay until now. Thanks for bringing it up - it looks really promising!
mp3@lemmy.ca 8 months ago
Firefox for Android can.
BaroqueInMind@kbin.social 8 months ago
I have firefox mobile with uBlock Origin and Sponsorblock addonds and haven't seen a fucking ad in two years. No app needed.
Todesschnitzel@lemm.ee 8 months ago
Hell yeah I am. Fuck them trackers!
LadyAutumn@lemmy.blahaj.zone 8 months ago
My revanced setup literally shows as “Youtube” and functions identically, with sponsorblocking and adblocking. It let me disable shorts entirely and use the click-bait thumbnail circumventer. Took me 5 minutes to setup. I see a video on any app and click on it and it opens up in revanced no problem.
People act like 5 seconds of effort is worth what, 120$/year? After googling, closer to 160$/year? Lmao I wish that amount of money was inconsequential to me
Railing5132@lemmy.world 8 months ago
Setting aside the conflation of “5 minutes” to “5 seconds” for a bit just to say: setting up ReVanced is a gigantic pain in the ass. I’ve only ever been on the android platform. I’ve sideloaded apps. Also been in the technology industry for almost 3 decades. The documentation is dog shit. The official user forum r/revanced, (iirc) is a fucking circlejerk. Their own faq and top pinned “definitive install guide” post is out of date and just plain wrong. Down thread, whenever someone has questions (inevitably, because the documentation is fucked (see previous)), some smarmy asshat has the audacity to direct the confused newb to the same flawed docs.
I swear, fanatics are their own worst enemies. Now, I’m not saying you’re a fanatic. But sideloading that app in 5 mins (or seconds, depending on which sentence you’re relying on)? Yeah, bullshit.
LinkOpensChest_wav@lemmy.one 8 months ago
This has been my exact same experience trying to use ReVanced as well. Piped has a much more helpful developer and community, in my opinion.
LadyAutumn@lemmy.blahaj.zone 8 months ago
I dont even have root. You download the apk for the recommended version of YouTube, which the revanced manager app tells you, select it - it auto picks all the patches - hit apply, wait - then hit install. Takes maybe 2 minutes to install. Then you’re done. Never once had any difficulty beyond that. One time I used a different youtube version than what was recommended, worked fine just didn’t have all the patches.
I dunno why you were trying to sideload it. That’s not necessary. You can do all this in, I’ll be generous and say 15-20 minutes. I’ve done it a few times now and done it for others too, so it usually only takes me 5 to 10. Depends on how fast their phone is to patch the apk.
Throw in another minute to fully disable the official YouTube app and route all YouTube links to open with revanced and you’re set.
mateomaui@reddthat.com 8 months ago
pulling up youtube on your browser
Yes, on an Android tablet, using the PocketTube app (which manages my YT subscriptions into groups), to forward a group playlist to YT in Firefox with uBo installed, without being logged into YT in FF.
I don’t have to rely on 3rd party servers and services working properly, I don’t get ads, and YT gets little to nothing on me as an anonymous user.
I’ve been reading all these posts about blocker warnings being displayed and having to update the uBo filters, and I haven’t seen one of those yet, without doing any of that.
LinkOpensChest_wav@lemmy.one 8 months ago
Revanced is quite the pain to set up, in my opinion, and the Revanced forums aren’t super helpful. The developer refuses to publish a useable guide.
I switched to NewPipe x Sponsorblock, and that one was maybe 20 seconds of downloading and installing, not counting tweaking the settings to my liking. It’s been much more stable for me. Revanced always crashed for me at exactly 3 hours of continuous use, which was a problem since I use those 8-hour ambient sound videos to help me sleep.
There’s also LibreTube, but that one can be a lot more finicky, and you have to manually switch the instance, which becomes a pain in the ass after a while.
Railing5132@lemmy.world 7 months ago
Revanced forums are straight-up toxic. Any setup questions are smugly redirected at the unusable documentation, as you pointed out. For some reason, there’s an elitist attitude in that group.
sigmaklimgrindset@sopuli.xyz 8 months ago
My mans really forgot about Revanced and Newpipe huh…
Son_of_dad@lemmy.world 8 months ago
For some reason, those never work for me. I’ve tried at least 3 different YouTube and blockers and they all fail.
Also there’s no blockers for something like a fire stick, which sucks.
viking@infosec.pub 8 months ago
uBlock origin works, but you must disable all other blockers or browser plugins doing something with youtube, as they might interfere with the adblocking capability.
For the fire stick, simply install smarttubenext. Adfree and with sponsorblock included.
takeda@lemmy.world 8 months ago
uBlock should work, if it doesn’t make sure you are using latest version, you have custom filters disabled and disable all extension. If that fixes it then you can start enabling other extension tracking which one caused issue.
With adblock detection filtering too much can cause to trigger the detection.
LinkOpensChest_wav@lemmy.one 8 months ago
Are you using Firefox?
Also, you might have to go into filter lists in the uBO dashboard and make sure you’ve checkmarked everything.
I’m not sure what can be done about a fire stick. I’m lucky because I have a mini PC connected to my main TV that runs Linux so I can use that to stream whatever I want. It’s one of the best setups I’ve ever had for entertainment. I just got one of those cheap wireless keyboards with a trackpad for $10 from newegg, and Linux Mint has a setting to make the UI more usable from a distance.
I do use a Roku sometimes when I travel for work, and I just deal with the ads, so if there’s a way to make something like a fire stick or roku work with a custom OS, that would be nice, but I’m not aware of anything.
SkyezOpen@lemmy.world 8 months ago
Very long hdmi cable.
Lucidlethargy@sh.itjust.works 7 months ago
There is 100% a blocker for the Amazon fire stick. It’s called SmartTube.
Chozo@kbin.social 8 months ago
Can't use uBO from most of the devices I actually watch YouTube on.
For me, it's much easier to just pay for Premium. No ads on my phone, Playstation, Chromecast, or locked-down work laptop that I can't install extensions on.
And the creators whose content I consume still get paid for my views. Honestly, it's worth it for both my use-case and my morals.
xenspidey@lemmy.zip 8 months ago
Not sure why you’re getting downvoted, paying for services you use shouldn’t be looked down upon. It’s way easier then trying to always be ahead of the ad block blockers. I do block all ads on websites though
mkwt@lemmy.world 8 months ago
I started Premium as Google Play Music back when. Made sense as an alternative to Spotify. In my book, it still does. Ad-free YouTube is just a bonus for a music streaming service.
BigMoe@lemmy.zip 8 months ago
Agreed. Family plan is priced similar to Spotify, and ad free YouTube is a nice bonus
HeckingShepherd@lemm.ee 8 months ago
I can afford it and use it all the time. It’s completely unreasonable to expect a company to provide a service for you for free without any way for them to monetize you. Hosting videos isn’t free so why should they pay for you to have access to their service
Maeve@kbin.social 8 months ago
They’re datamining us to the tune of billions.
https://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2020/03/google-says-it-doesnt-sell-your-data-heres-how-company-shares-monetizes-and
takeda@lemmy.world 8 months ago
I can afford it and refuse to pay on principle. I actually would be glad if Google went out of business (although extremely unlikely). Pianos Companies like them use every opportunity to cheat and modify laws to give them advantage and remove any chance of a new innovative competitor taking over. Then they expect us to act honorable and play by the rules that they set up.
They are the cancer and we need to restore antitrust laws that supposed to prevent them from ever getting so big.
Chozo@kbin.social 8 months ago
Because LemmyWorld is full of immature users who think that anybody who pays money for a thing they get extensive use out of is a shill. They think that using adblockers is somehow sticking it to The Man.
I'm starting to understand why LW has the reputation it does now.
NocturnalMorning@lemmy.world 8 months ago
I mean, attempting to monetize every single thing in life is juvenile and short sighted as well.
dojan@lemmy.world 8 months ago
LW has a reputation?
copygirl@lemmy.blahaj.zone 8 months ago
It could just have something to do with the fact that many people think ads are not only annoying but also highly manipulative, creating artificial needs in people, a tool to make already successful and rich companies even richer, … and the surrounding technology to power them is unethical, hoarding tons of information, building profiles of people, tracking which websites they visit, what search terms they use, …
LinkOpensChest_wav@lemmy.one 8 months ago
For most, very little. For the big ones, millions of dollars, and I always resent people lecturing me about “morals” because I’m not willing to subsidize a rich person’s hobby.
Regular perople aren’t making anything from YouTube, only the ones who had the capital to invest in their channels upfront. I don’t feel compelled to pay for any of that, and I’d just as soon have their content filtered from my feed if it’s immoral not to want to see ads.
The channel I use most often is Audible Anarchist, and I really don’t think they give a fuck if I use an adblocker or even Piped to watch their videos.
Lucidlethargy@sh.itjust.works 7 months ago
I know. I managed a YouTube partner account, but also I Googled it just now.
$1-2 per 1,000 views is what I’m reading, but I can say I personally saw numbers at least five times less than that with the amount I managed.
If anyone wants to support a creator, just donate money to them directly. They’ll be absolutely floored by the gesture.
xenspidey@lemmy.zip 8 months ago
I don’t disagree, but things like that have to be monotized in some way or else they would not exist.
jackoneill@lemmy.world 8 months ago
Yeah you can have YouTube premium and also use an ad blocker…. Being mad at YouTube is just the hot thing right now
LadyAutumn@lemmy.blahaj.zone 8 months ago
You don’t have to always be ahead. I’ve been using g revanced for years now without problems. Before that Vanced. My computer has had ublock origin with 0 issues for years prior to the recent changes. To resolve those I literally had to click 2 buttons in the UI. Bam no ads. Have had no problems since. The time I’ve invested in configuring adblocking since I started watching YouTube, sometime around 2008-9, has probably amounted to 20 minutes of time.
LinkOpensChest_wav@lemmy.one 8 months ago
You’ve definitely saved time by using an adblocker/Revanced, compared to having to watch ads or keep track of a paid subscription.
Millwiller@lemm.ee 8 months ago
Revanced for android, SmartTube for android TV
MeatsOfRage@lemmy.world 8 months ago
Anything for Apple TV?
almar_quigley@lemmy.world 8 months ago
Yattee
dojan@lemmy.world 8 months ago
Possibly something like PiHole?
FurtiveFugitive@lemm.ee 8 months ago
Once upon a time it was worth it for me too. But since every service is running up the rates, I had to decide which, if any, deserved my money. Google didn’t make the cut. I have a feeling nobody will by the end of year
takeda@lemmy.world 8 months ago
uBlock works on Firefox on Android.
ReVanced replaces native YouTube app and Smart Tube replaces YouTube on TV.
Chozo@kbin.social 8 months ago
That does nothing to address my moral concern, which is ensuring that the creators whose content I watch are getting paid.
While I appreciate free things, I know that I can't keep getting free things if the people making them can't afford to do so.
teejay@lemmy.world 8 months ago
You could just, you know, send those creators money directly. Nearly all of them have methods set up for that already, and I’m guessing anyone who doesn’t would set something up in a hurry if you asked to donate to them.
It’s a win / win. You get to sit on your moral high ground, the creators get paid, Google can fuck off.
Arrakis@lemmy.world 8 months ago
YouTube ad revenue is a pittance. If you want to actually support creators, send them money directly.
Lucidlethargy@sh.itjust.works 7 months ago
If you paid the content creators directly they’d receive tens of thousands of times more than any of your views gave them.
I used to work with a partner account, and I can tell you they make NOTHING for views compared to what Google makes.
So hey, you do you, but don’t try to convince us or yourself that this is for the content creators. That’s like saying you order Uber eats to support the drivers, but you never tip them.
Chozo@kbin.social 7 months ago
This is about the compromises and concessions I'm personally willing and financially able to make. Obviously it's not the perfect solution, but we don't live in a perfect world.