What’s pre-tipping? A tip before you’ve even had service?
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Freefall@lemmy.world 1 day ago
10-15% IF you went above and beyond or performed particularly well. It’s a tip, I am not your employer. I used to be a huge tipper until I realized just how fucked that whole system is.
LunarLoony@lemmy.sdf.org 1 day ago
Texas_Hangover@sh.itjust.works 1 day ago
Its what you have to do these days if you want your uber to show up in a reasonable amount of time.
iowagneiss@midwest.social 1 day ago
Or your pizza to not have been carried on its side, as I learned.
Freefall@lemmy.world 1 day ago
Yup. Delivery services (like DoorDash or Domino’s) and the like tend to do it. They also show your tip to the person. You end up getting service based on your tip instead of the other way around.
Knock_Knock_Lemmy_In@lemmy.world 1 day ago
In Vegas start with a large pre tip for your waitress. That gets you drunk pretty quickly
zipzoopaboop@lemmynsfw.com 1 day ago
Friends were confused how I was wasted when they were barely tipsy
tabularasa@lemmy.ca 1 day ago
Pre-tipping is how rub and tug’s work. For real.
BakerBagel@midwest.social 1 day ago
Complain all you want, but not tipping is straight up taking money from someone who is getting paid $5 an hour. Complain to ownership, write your congressman and state legislators, but not tipping only punishes someone who is barely scrapping by.
SoJB@lemmy.ml 1 day ago
So, dear reader, notice how whenever defenders of tipping come along, it’s always the same story.
Oh boohoo my poor minimum wage (which is pegged to the same minimum wage as non-tipped workers in states where most people live).
Ever wonder why it’s always about the minimum wage and never about how much money they make?
Any server with 2 brain cells clears $40 an hour in untaxed cash wages every shift.
They never report it on their taxes, and yet they will cry about their poor wittle wage at every opportunity expecting people that make half their salary to tip them 100% for rudely dropping off a plate once and never coming back, making you wait 20 minutes to close a check.
Notice the pattern. Remember how I was right next time.
BakerBagel@midwest.social 1 day ago
I’m 100% on board with ending tipping, i am just saying that stiffing your server won’t do anything to end it.
oxideseven@lemmy.ca 1 day ago
It will when servers refuse to work those jobs
mojofrododojo@lemmy.world 1 day ago
Yeah, if you want to act your conscience be my guest, don’t patronize the restaurant that does this. Don’t eat their food then stiff the server.
dingus@lemmy.world 1 day ago
Sorry you’re getting downvoted. The internet doesn’t understand how to solve problems and would instead like for individual people who have no power in this to be shafted. In an ideal world, what people are saying to you would work. This isn’t an ideal world.
UltraGiGaGigantic@lemmy.ml 1 day ago
Don’t give business to these companies. EZ
michaelmrose@lemmy.world 1 day ago
Also tipping is for actual table service. If you just hand me some food I’m not tipping you for handing me food.
Whats_your_reasoning@lemmy.world 1 day ago
I recently ordered some parts for an e-vape online. At the payment page it asked for a tip. I was in disbelief. (I didn’t take a screenshot, but in retrospect I should have.)
No services rendered, no food being made, nobody personally delivering it to my house. But it still wanted a tip, with the explanation that it was “to support our team!”
Where to even begin…
michaelmrose@lemmy.world 3 hours ago
Lol their job is to support their team! That is one of the things they are supposed to do with your money!
TheKMAP@lemmynsfw.com 1 day ago
Your opinion is a result of class warfare propaganda, to get working class people arguing with each other. Direct your anger to the employer.
RememberTheApollo_@lemmy.world 1 day ago
I’m tired of this excuse. These people took the job knowing what the pay rate was, and are demanding the customer pay their salary directly rather than the employer like virtually any other conventional job does. Customers have had it, they’re being told to give employees raises along with rising food costs, even at businesses that don’t do a damn thing for the customer except maybe hand them a to-go box. 20% for that? F no. Grow a spine and demand real pay, people have had it. IDK how I can travel almost any modern place else in the world, pay for a good meal, and only have to leave the approximation of $1 or so for appreciation of the service, but in America I pay for the food and a separate charge for the employee’s “pay”.
BakerBagel@midwest.social 1 day ago
Thrn stop going to restaurants that expect a tip. Don’t go to a restaurant and stiff your server. I spent 6 months last year living on $300 a week because people weren’t tipping at the bar i was working at. The bar is still open, but the new bartender is in the exact same position.
RememberTheApollo_@lemmy.world 1 day ago
I don’t have a problem with tipping. I have a problem with restauranteurs taking the profits and the customer being asked for more and more tips. I can’t help people’s life situations, and I’m sure they aren’t all down on their luck any more than someone working retail. Yeah, I avoid places that expect big tips, so the servers get no tip at all instead of some tip.
beastlykings@sh.itjust.works 1 day ago
Those same people only getting paid 5 an hour have literally fought and complained against any attempts to change the law and bring a proper wage. Why? Because they make more in tips than they would hourly. Whole system is messed up.
viking@infosec.pub 1 day ago
Not tipping is not giving my money away for nothing.
Tipping culture creates unwarranted expectations and removes obligations from employers.
I’ve stopped tipping decades ago and won’t look back.
Nindelofocho@lemmy.world 1 day ago
Its unfortunately a catch 22 though because continuing to tip kinda enables it to keep happening if everyone stopped tipping then places would likely have to pay a decent wage in order to get people to work as even if you’re extremely desperate for money its still not really worth it to work for tipped minimum wage with no tips also im not sure if it applies to all places but if your compensation + tips falls below the federal minimim wage the company must pay you the difference if I am not mistaken
BakerBagel@midwest.social 1 day ago
That’s over the course of a pay period though. So if i make $40 on a slow night, but $200 the next night, that evens out and the boss doesn’t have to pay out.
I am not defending tipping, but change will only happen from the top down. All the full time servers at the restaurant i work at are at “i cant pay my bills” level of struggling right now and we live in a super cheap area. Stiffing your server won’t end tipping, it’s just taking a meal away from them or their kids while the owner is just fine. Legislation is the only thing that will end the system, qnd that’s where the reform needs to happen.
Nindelofocho@lemmy.world 1 day ago
You’re probably right. This shouldnt be an issue for the customer but it its
michaelmrose@lemmy.world 1 day ago
In WA everyone is paid at least 16 an hour, over 20 in Seattle and in many high COL areas.
BakerBagel@midwest.social 1 day ago
Believe it nor not, most people do not live in Washington.
michaelmrose@lemmy.world 2 hours ago
This is the case in several states amounting in total to 60M people. For states where another 70M live the tip credit exists but is smaller than the federal number. Many also have a higher minimum as well. For 130 million people the prior statement is inapt.
heavydust@sh.itjust.works 1 day ago
I’m paying
straight up taking money
lol, where can I find this magical money?
BakerBagel@midwest.social 1 day ago
Servers usually have to pay in X% of their total sales to the back of house. So if you stiff me on a $90 check, i lose $3 because i still have to pay that much in. I actually had a slow night where bith tables stiffed me so i actually left the restaurant $4 poorer than when i entered. Because ihad a better night the next shift, the owner was able to average me out so that he didn’t have to pay me more than the server minimum wage.
zarkanian@sh.itjust.works 1 day ago
Yes. If you can’t afford to leave a decent tip, then don’t get the service.
TheKMAP@lemmynsfw.com 1 day ago
If there is a magical amount of money you want to receive so you don’t get pissed off at me, just make that the price.
RedditRefugee69@lemmynsfw.com 1 day ago
I don’t think 10-15% has been considered a reasonable tip for “above and beyond” since the 80s. Most will take that as an insult worse than not tipping, funnily enough.
As for pre-tips, they (intentionally?) design the checkout process such that if there’s a pre-tip, there is no post-tip. It’s basically a “don’t spit in my burger” fee.
ShinkanTrain@lemmy.ml 1 day ago
Pre-tip? I think that’s called a bribe
Knock_Knock_Lemmy_In@lemmy.world 1 day ago
That’s what tips are. A bribe for your next visit