Employers ditching health coverage

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• Wirlocke@lemmy.blahaj.zone ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  Maybe we could push public healthcare if we rephrase it as subsidizing companies, might as well try right?

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  • jonline@feddit.online ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    So I recently read “dying of whiteness” after seeing someone go on about it here. There’s apparently a lot of people that would rather personally die than let black people have health insurance

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    • Wirlocke@lemmy.blahaj.zone ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

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  • ThisUsernameKillsFascists@piefed.social ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    I’ve been saying for years that we need to frame it as an issue of international market competitiveness. GM and Ford, for example, could be more competitive on price with Honda and Toyota if they weren’t paying for health insurance for their current employees and pensioners.

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• Jake_Farm@sopuli.xyz ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  I thought they were required by law.

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  • douglasg14b@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    And for the ones where it is, they’ll just choose United, and then you can’t get healthcare anyway because none of the clinics will bill United Health because of their denial rate.

    Literally not a single physical therapy office, occupational therapy office, immunotherapy, asthma clinic, or essentially any other outpatient facility within 100 miles of me takes United Health.

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    • Jake_Farm@sopuli.xyz ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      If no one takes their insurance, they aren’t actually insurance, they are a ponzi scheme.

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    • Blackfeathr@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      Can confirm. Going through this bullshit with United Hellcare with trying to establish psych care.

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    • fluffykittycat@slrpnk.net ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      No Wonder Luigi did it, holy shit

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    • AeonFelis@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

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    • Tollana1234567@lemmy.today ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      for a while BCBS was one of the bad ones, im guessing UHG is pretty bad too. i think optum one of thier subsidiaries also terrible.

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  • HeronHouseHamilton@lemmy.zip ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    They’re not dumping health insurance altogether, they’re just shrinking the coverage.

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    • Tollana1234567@lemmy.today ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      or they are passing more of the cost to the employee. shrinking includes choosing a shittier insurance that covers less.

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  • Malica@lemmy.zip ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    Law is meaningless without enforcement and Trump destroyed all of the consumer watchdogs.

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• timewarp@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  90% of Democrats will do nothing to improve the status quo. We need a revolution.

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  • arrow74@lemmy.zip ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    I’m curious if this “progressive” movement takes hold. This could be for the democrats what the tea party was for the Republicans. The RNC did everything it could to push out the tea party faction, but they won and took over the party.

    Maybe the new wave of Democratic socialists can do the same to the DNC.

    Then again I’m not sure we can survive the 2 or 3 election cycles necessary to get there

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    • fluffykittycat@slrpnk.net ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      You really gotta hold their feet to the fire to.get them to do anything. If they won’t, primary them again

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  • fodor@lemmy.zip ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    Which Democrats? You did not clarify, and it matters, especially when you are using defeatist rhetoric…

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    • Cataath@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      DNC leadership, the rotating villains that help pass ghoulish legislation, and the rank-and-file Dems who are happy to go on the news to criticize the DSA (who are not socialists, just pro- regulation and social services, aka governing). Pro-corprate and pro-AIPAC Dems need to be defeated just as much as Republicans.

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• TankovayaDiviziya@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  Even Trump before said he favoured affordable healthcare because it means not tying healthcare to employers. Now, he did a u-turn probably because he’s going senile and having been bought by the insurance industry.

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• A_Random_Idiot@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  They want to get rid of the only thing that keeps 90% of people working at shit jobs, thats some real consultant level smarts right there.

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  • iocase@lemmy.zip ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    Wait, you mean I can get healthcare in prison?

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    • A_Random_Idiot@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      I doubt its good quality healthcare, and you’ll probably still be forced into slave labor, only being paid 7.5cents an hour instead of 7.50 an hour.

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• RememberTheApollo_@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  Push everyone onto the private market and jack the prices up with worse service. Just like everything else.

  Because even though the employer health care was shitty for a lot of reasons it did have one thing going for it: the ability of a powerful corporation to negotiate the best rates it could in order to keep its costs down.

  If it’s no longer tied to jobs, we lose that last advantage.

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  • Limonene@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    There was another reason: Employer-provided health insurance is not taxed as income in the US. This is the main reason healthcare is tied to employment.

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    • RememberTheApollo_@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      I knw of no place that cites the taxes as a “benefit” or a main reason.

      Health care was tied to emplyment as a means to attract workers. That’s it. The fact any of it is untaxed is at the whim of the government, not the employer. If anything the employer-based health care is a shackle, you lose your job or get fired you lose insurance.

      I’m sure if enough people get kicked off employer health care or enough corpos say they’re no longer offering it the government will allow some sort of pre-tax or no-tax income allowance to individuals based on reported health insurance costs.

      Maybe.

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    • swelter_spark@reddthat.com ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      I don’t understand the connection, tbh.

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• FistingEnthusiast@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  Slavery never went away in 'Murica

  It was just rebranded

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• Xyre@lemmus.org ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  Or switching to worse providers, like UHC of all things.

  I really struggle to understand HR’s thought process there, seeing the news and still deciding to make that choice.

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  • jonline@feddit.online ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    My understanding is HR’s thought process is “….. … … …. ….. …. …. …. …….”

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  • NikkiDimes@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    What are you gonna do, get a new job?

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• devedeset@lemmy.zip ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  From what I can tell from this article, Disney isn’t covering spouses who have their own healthcare coverage through their jobs, Starbucks is not covering GLP-1 as much, and Deloitte is reducing paid parental leave and IVF.

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• DarrinBrunner@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  Yeah, it’s bad for we poors. But we’re not the ones in power.

  We’re only allowed to have beneficial laws that don’t cost the billionaires something.

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• anon_8675309@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  Yes! It was a horrible idea.

  But things a good thing. People think employers actually pay for their benefits. That’s not how total compensation works.

  We need this. It won’t be easy but we need this.

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• 456456@lemmy.ml ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  Thank you, corrupt Union leaders, for being just like the oligarchs you are supposed to oppose.

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