Drowning in grid scale batteries

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• Proprietary_Blend@lemmy.world ⁨5⁩ ⁨minutes⁩ ago

  Shitpost!

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• yermaw@sh.itjust.works ⁨9⁩ ⁨minutes⁩ ago

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• poVoq@slrpnk.net ⁨27⁩ ⁨minutes⁩ ago

  The calculation is wrong by a factor of 1000, and even if it were correct, that’s like a week of typical container imports to the US 🤡

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• Grail@multiverse.soulism.net ⁨1⁩ ⁨hour⁩ ago

  OP is stupid and thinks there are a million megawatts in a gigawatt. It’s a thousand. You only need 2000 barges to supply the entire USA.

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  • Grail@multiverse.soulism.net ⁨38⁩ ⁨minutes⁩ ago

    I do think nuclear power is an important part of a healthy grid. But the problem is, nuclear power plants take a lot of very specialised knowledge. When you build a nuclear reactor with non-experts, it runs five times over budget and takes a decade. And right now, there aren’t any experts at all. So we can’t afford that much time, and we can’t afford all that money. We need climate solutions that are capable of saving the world right now. Current generation renewables and batteries can save the world right now if our politicians are willing to pay the investment now and reap the cost savings later.

    But, after a few reactor building projects, we will have a handful of experts who can build reactors on-time, on-budget, and while training a team of rookies. So I do think we should put a little bit of money into nuclear on an indefinite basis, once we’re hitting our projected climate goals. I want to see what molten salt reactor technology can do in 30 years, after we’ve saved the world with renewables.

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• MentalEdge@sopuli.xyz ⁨2⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

  Batteries don’t come in MW, GW, or even W. That’s a measure of power. As in how fast it is being created or consumed.

  Batteries don’t create or consume power, they store it.

  That is measured i Wh, MWh, or GWh.

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  • Forester@pawb.social ⁨2⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    Sir this is my shitpost not a Ted talk. I am referring to 1 MWh batteries.

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    • FiniteBanjo@feddit.online ⁨1⁩ ⁨hour⁩ ago

      Memes can be misinformation, too, so that isn’t an excuse.

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    • MentalEdge@sopuli.xyz ⁨1⁩ ⁨hour⁩ ago

      Oh, sorry.

      Come to think of it, you can actually pull 930 gigawatts from any battery. Just not for very long.

      Does that sokve the problem?

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  • ArfArfWoof@europe.pub ⁨1⁩ ⁨hour⁩ ago

    You could measure their max. output in W.

    ~But yeah, you are technically correct~

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• Pelicanen@fedia.io ⁨1⁩ ⁨hour⁩ ago

  This seems to imply that you just replace all fossil fuel energy sources with batteries which does not even make sense. Once the batteries have been discharged, how would you recharge them?

  What should actually be done is scale up renewable power generation and then you'd use the the batteries to balance out the difference between production and consumption, which takes a lot less batteries than trying to replace energy generation with energy storage (which, again, would not even work).

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• FiniteBanjo@feddit.online ⁨1⁩ ⁨hour⁩ ago

  1 Wh = 3600 Joule

  Fun fact you can actually store power in various ways such as pumping water uphill and having it run a turbine on its way down, or even as thermal energy in an underground molten salt pit. Li-ion batteries are not the only method unless nobody is connected to the grid and even then you could still use it but only at certain times of day.

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• midribbon_action@lemmy.blahaj.zone ⁨2⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

  The battery is 1MWh, not 1MW. There are 1000 MW in a GW. Therefore, two barges could contain enough charge to run a gigawatt datacenter for one hour, so you’ll need a barge to arrive every thirty minutes approximately.

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• DmMacniel@feddit.org ⁨38⁩ ⁨minutes⁩ ago

  How about batteries (doesn’t have to be chemical) AND renewable power generators?

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• Nora@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨39⁩ ⁨minutes⁩ ago

  Wow that’s a lot of space! how much does a nuclear reactor take up?

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• Mok98@feddit.it ⁨2⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

  How big is that compared to an abandoned mall building?

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  • Diplomjodler3@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨hour⁩ ago

    I’d like the area in football fields and the weight in elephants, please. You need to standardize these things.

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    • Mok98@feddit.it ⁨1⁩ ⁨hour⁩ ago

      The abandoned mall building is for volume duh

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• the_q@piefed.social ⁨1⁩ ⁨hour⁩ ago

  It’s crazy to think that electricity isn’t a necessity outside of the relatively modern human experience. Humans are architects of suffering.

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• Forester@pawb.social ⁨2⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

  Its way too early in the AM for me to do the math to make it a clean 1 GW

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  • remon@ani.social ⁨2⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    It would be 1667.

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    • Forester@pawb.social ⁨2⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      1667

      1 Paradise Lost please

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