UAW preparing the US for a general strike in 2028

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• Sanctus@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  LETS FUCKING GOOOOOO

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  • BarrelAgedBoredom@lemm.ee ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    Best news I’ve heard all year! A general strike is probably one of our best ways to radicalize the masses. I’m fuckin pumped

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• Jollyllama@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  Let’s fucking go. They’ve worked hard to gut the strength unions used to wield with the POWER of the general strike. Time to bring it back baaaby.

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• xmunk@sh.itjust.works ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  … is this satire? Why the fuck would you give four years of warning for managers to document “a slow accumulation of poor performance” and other bullshit to shit can pro-union employees. A large strike takes coordination, but four years is ridiculous.

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  • gibmiser@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    Nah I think it’s a good move. Gives unions time to decide on demands and get big enough to really scare those in power.

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  • rockSlayer@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    I know you seemed to have gotten the gist for why it’s been announced so far out, but there’s some other things at play here.

    1. Actual general strikes are illegal under the Taft-Hartley act
    2. US unions generally engage in contract negotiations at different times, and set the specific date the contract expires during the negotiation
    3. In a country of 333 million people, a general strike will take A LOT of planning. Even if only 10% of the country went on strike, it would easily be the largest strike in world history. The entire economy will stop and people will need to be taken care of.

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    • unfreeradical@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      Even if only 10% of the country went on strike, it would easily be the largest strike in world history. The entire economy will stop and people will need to be taken care of.

      I am not brash enough to assert any prediction, but such an event as you describe would be momentus, of coordinating protection and distribution on so massive a scale, completely alternative to the systems of the establishment. A successful demonstration of such kind would be transformative in our culture, producing a massive expansion of collectively perceived horizons of possibility for the future.

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  • circuscritic@lemmy.ca ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    Solidarity and action requires communication. There’s NO way to coordinate that type of collective action and keep it secret.

    Much better to say it loud and often to build support.

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  • spacecowboy@sh.itjust.works ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    Do you know how long union agreements usually last? 3-5 years.

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    • snooggums@kbin.social ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      Yeah, they are just letting the companies know that they will be ready for the next round and that they aren't going to accept less than their value like they were in past negotiations.

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    • xmunk@sh.itjust.works ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      That makes a lot more sense. Thanks!

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  • roboticide@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    Read the article. The UAW has just signed a ~5 year contract, expiring in 2028. He’s calling for other unions, between now and then, to align their contract expirations with the UAW’s. This is not something that’s possible to do in a short period of time, because it relies upon various other union contracts ending, and realistically by the time we get to 2026/2027 no union is going to sign a sub-2 year contract.

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  • Fraylor@lemm.ee ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    I imagine part of it is to try and take the time to gather as much support as possible, likely to include re-educating ground level bootlicker employees who hate unions and their own self interests.

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  • RestrictedAccount@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    They need a big war chest otherwise, how can they afford the Jimmy Hoffa lifestyle?

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    • eestileib@sh.itjust.works ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      Permanent concrete nap? I think that lifestyle is within your grasp right now.

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• MargotRobbie@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  Yay for more strikes!

  Obligatory merchandising here, but you can support our union’s effort during the strike by buying some swags in the link below.

  sagaftra.org/official-sag-aftra-strike-swag-available

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  • Arielcorn@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    Thanks, esteemed Academy Award nominated character actress Margot Robbie!

    (I bought the stickers).

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    • MargotRobbie@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      Thanks, esteemed Academy Award nominated character actress Margot Robbie!

      Finally. After all these months. Thank you.

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• roguetrick@kbin.social ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  A general strike would result in the fall of the federal government.

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  • Mossheart@lemmy.ca ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    At this rate though, the federal government is about to result in the fall of the federal government.

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    • ChickenLadyLovesLife@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      I would blame the people who have stated publicly that they want the federal government to fall.

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  • OneWomanCreamTeam@sh.itjust.works ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    What does secondary action mean, in this context?

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    • Agent641@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      After primary action and just before tertiary action.

      (Im sorry, I also dont know and Im just saving this spot for when someone actually explains it)

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• uriel238@lemmy.blahaj.zone ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  FINALLY

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  • ChickenLadyLovesLife@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    … in 5 years.

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    • keefshape@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      This is a really smart thing, though. Any unions that align contract dates with UAW and others who also do so, gains a huge lever to use both now and later.

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    • woodenskewer@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      He’s speaking as a union rep, I get what you’re saying but he just can’t call a general strike. It would take years alone to get different trade union contracts to align to expire on the same year to get what he wants to do across. For example I’m in a steelworker union and my contract expires in 2027. If we sign a new contract in 2027 and participate in a general strike it wouldn’t be backed by our union and could be punishable. However if they vote to extend the current contract 1 year near the end of the contract (very likely) we would actually have steelworkers and auto workers contracts expiring on the same year which could be interesting if these assholes actually communicated with each other union to union.

      Sorry if you knew all this but I took your comment as in a “why not sooner?” or “what are they waiting for?” context so I felt compelled to answer.

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  • brodrobe@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    5 years too late, we need action today. Let’s get it rolling sooner than that.

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    • RubberElectrons@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      Word, why in 2028? I dropped $10 on bread today that used to be $6!!! (Allergies)

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• Kase@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  This is awesome, but idk if they’re even printing 2028 calendars yet lol

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  • unfreeradical@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    Five years certainly seems distant. If no civil war starts in such time, then I think the Earth will just full into the Sun.

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    • Agent641@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      We will be saved by the second coming of Harambe.

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• doublejay1999@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  Would be interesting. A peaceful general strike would lead to military intervention in about 45-60 days I think.

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  • Bonskreeskreeskree@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    And what is the military going to do? Force everyone back to work under the threat of death? Sounds like the catalyst to a revolution to me

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    • CADmonkey@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      Sooner or later, someone in the military would have to decixe between following an order, and not shooting a friend/relative. And as you say… revolution.

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  • Fraylor@lemm.ee ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    That long? Ain’t no way the shareholders would let the government stay on its leash long enough to tank an entire fiscal quarter

    Will somebody think of the economy?!

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  • CosmicCleric@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    A peaceful general strike would lead to military intervention in about 45-60 days I think.

    But at the end of the day, how do you task society to forcibly work?

    Everyone can just start taking sick days, what’s the Army going to do, go to door?

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    • unfreeradical@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      Blair Mountain.

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• Adalast@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  Unfortunately the Taft-Hartley act made political and solidarity strikes unlawful. Solidarity strike ≈ General strike. There are some very minor differences, but I don’t see that mattering.

  en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Taft–Hartley_Act

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  • rockSlayer@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    That’s the point. If all the contracts expire at the same time, it’s a coincidence, not a general strike in the eyes of the law

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    • Adalast@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      I’m not sure that the public declaration would not void that defense on the grounds of collusion.

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  • SARGEx117@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    What are they going to do, throw the entire working population in jail?

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    • CADmonkey@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      If I had to guess, I’d say the actual answer isn’t jail but “start shooting” while also pumping propoganda about those lazy union guys who just don’t want to work.

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  • CADmonkey@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    All the effective strikes are illegal.

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    • Asafum@feddit.nl ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      Fucking exactly. We’re only allowed to have small relief valves to prevent riots, we aren’t allowed to actually fight for a better future.

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  • CosmicCleric@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Taft–Hartley_Act

    Interesting that it was a Republican sponsored bill, and voted in by a Republican Senate and House.

    Also interesting that the President Truman had vetoed it.

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  • Rentlar@lemmy.ca ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    A political, solidarity, secondary strike etc. is where a union or group under an in-force bargaining agreement are not allowed to strike just because their friends/fellow workers are striking. While not under a collective agreement then they can strike. If everyone’s agreement expires simultaneously, then it is possible for any or every group to strike.

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  • dangblingus@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    Okay. The police will just have to arrest hundreds of thousands, if not millions of people all across the country then.

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  • CosmicCleric@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    An interesting read, thank you for sharing.

    The anti-communism slant in the law was slightly humorous to read, as it shows you the times in which the law was written.

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• Meuzzin@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  IUOE Local 1 Standing by…

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  • Metatronz@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    Yeah!

    What does that mean?

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    • FancyManacles@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      International Union of Operating Engineers

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• scroll_responsibly@lemmy.sdf.org ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  Tiocfaidh ár lá Sean Fein

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