Can we have this everywhere please
Rush hour traffic in Utrecht, Netherlands
Submitted 2 weeks ago by foga@lemmy.world to videos@lemmy.world
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witty_username@feddit.nl 2 weeks ago
But_my_mom_says_im_cool@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
Cyclists are the worst where I live, they have zero respect for pedestrians. The city spent millions on bike lanes and these fucks will zip past you and your toddlers on the sidewalk, they never wear helmets, they don’t know any road laws, anyways this would be a nightmare in my city
klay1@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
this is exactly anti-bicylce-propaganda. There are by far more deadly accidents involving cars and trucks than involving bikes and pedestrians. You are afraid of the wrong thing. Also you are describing the results of car focused infrastructure, that hasn’t been effectively planned for cyclists nor pedestrians. The dutch people are not much different than you or me, they just made the infrastructure right and assimilated it over the years. The close calls you are describing look harmless in the video, when you realize that even if there were an accident, not much would happen. But we still get many car-related deaths. Do you see what i mean?
Which city are you in and what does the car infrastructure look like in the street you are describing?
Iron_Lynx@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
Vehicular Cyclists, or Middle-Aged Men In Lycra, or MAMILs, will set that standard.
These aren’t MAMILs. These are people who just want to use the most convenient way of getting around in a place where cycling is considered a valid answer to that question.
ApathyTree@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 weeks ago
There are probably more people moving unhindered through this short video than you see in an average traffic jam photo.
klay1@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
yes, people counted and compared. This plus trams has waaay more throughput than a usual car intersection. Check out not just bikes video on that topic with various combinations and graphs, and get mad at car infrastructure with us!
ApathyTree@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 weeks ago
Oh yeah no I’ve been in that camp for a long while. I’m actively furious that my state had an approved plan for high speed rail like 15 years ago connecting all the major cities in the area, and connecting to the national line. And then some asshole republican came in and scrapped it even though it was already fully funded and ready to go.
It would be active right now if that hadn’t happened. Instead I have to drive 2.5 hrs to see my friend, 2 hours to go to my specialist doctor, and the same 2 hours in the opposite direction to get to the national line. All of those trips were supposed to be under 45 min on the train.
So so fucking salty about it. I fucking hate driving. I hate having to pay to maintain a vehicle. I hate that car infrastructure means walking is almost impossible. I’d love to ride a bike or bus locally, but the infrastructure doesn’t sufficiently exist for either to be practical in my area (I’m not riding my bike on the road. People here would actively try to kill me.)
stormeuh@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
And many more mildly hindered, but in a way which is easily and safely resolvable while maintaining flow
kibiz0r@midwest.social 2 weeks ago
See, this is why you shouldn’t encourage bikes. That street looks totally unusable! 😤😤😤🚗🚗🦅🇱🇷
azimir@lemmy.ml 2 weeks ago
With so many bikes it’s going to make it impossible for cars to go through quickly! reeeeee!
FundMECFS@anarchist.nexus 2 weeks ago
True Liberian here
madjo@feddit.nl 2 weeks ago
Leave Liberia out of this :)
klay1@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
classic public service inefficiency. If they made the lanes a little wider cars could drive here too. But of course they forgot that.
shadow@lemmy.sdf.org 2 weeks ago
It’s so quiet. 🥹
wintermute@discuss.tchncs.de 2 weeks ago
As NotJustBikes pointed out multiple times, we have the idea that cities are loud, but it’s actually cars that are loud.
klay1@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
i hear people talk and laugh. That is what i want a busy street to be like.
saimen@feddit.org 2 weeks ago
Kind of eerie
TigerAce@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 weeks ago
Hey that’s me! I see myself cycling xD
adhocfungus@midwest.social 2 weeks ago
It’s so beautiful.
vk6flab@lemmy.radio 2 weeks ago
Fairy sure that you’re seeing a bicycle only intersection. Not that there’s anything wrong with that, but zero cars is not plausible, not even in Holland.
Source: I lived there for a decade and I’ve also been watching Not Just Bikes on YouTube: YouTube.com/@NotJustBikes
okwhateverdude@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
This is one of the busiest bike intersections in Utrecht. It is right by the central train station. When the camera pans right, you can see the exterior of the amazing bike parking structure that sits under the plaza in front of the station and shopping mall.
Ruigaard@slrpnk.net 2 weeks ago
Just 100 meters further this same traffic has to cross with public transport and cars, it’s mayhem there. But hardly any accidents. Just a lot of impatient cyclist. Source: It’s on my daily commute
Obi@sopuli.xyz 2 weeks ago
Obligatory pedantic correction: this is in the Utrecht region in the Netherlands (same name as the city). So neither South nor North Holland in this case.
altphoto@lemmy.today 2 weeks ago
This looks hilarious but its real. I’ve seen it with my own eyes. By the way, you see a red colored sidewalk, you get off of that thing unless you want to get run over by bikes.
mcz@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
What’s hilarious about it?
altphoto@lemmy.today 2 weeks ago
To an outsider like me. Its hilarious because you’ve never seen so many people trying to get somewhere on a bike. Specially when its winter and they get icicles on their face. But also when many are dressed like executives at some large corp while riding comfort bikes in the sitting up straight position.
Here in the us people ride bikes to exercise and have absolutely no heading or reason other than that. In Mexico people side their bikes from work if their old or poor or both. They ride slowly for pleasure, just to not have to walk after a long day. Whistling, looking at women walking because women don’t ride bikes, machismo. Its traditional. The bikes are old and are quickly becoming replaced by 2cycle mopeds, which women do ride a lot. Tons and tons of mopeds along with tons of moped accidents. So a bunch of people riding bikes, not wearing spandex or helmets, or wearing helmets and a suit, on special roads to get somewhere useful that’s on the hilarious end of things. Because its weird and different.
Quilotoa@lemmy.ca 2 weeks ago
Are ebikes not a thing in the Netherlands?
okwhateverdude@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
They are a thing. But most people are gonna ride a beater that if it gets stolen, no big deal. ebikes in particular are a big target for theft, especially the shitty fat tire ones. In fact, ebikes are becoming a bit of a nuisance because of the speed difference between them and regular bikes. In Amsterdam, we already force the mopeds (ICE or electric) to be on the street with the cars. And the city will vote soon to ban the fat tire ebikes from Vondelpark because of the nuisance they cause among heavy mixed traffic. There have been complaints to the city that older people don’t feel safe on the fietspad any more because of the big speed difference and I agree with them. The fietspad should be for everyone, not only the fastest.
Quilotoa@lemmy.ca 2 weeks ago
That makes sense. I never understood the popularity of fat tire ebikes. They are much heavier than regular bikes and therefore don’t hold a charge as long.
grue@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
Ebikes are less important when you don’t have hills to deal with.
ChanchoManco@lemmy.zip 2 weeks ago
You can see lots of people riding ebikes on the video.
aeternum@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 weeks ago
bikes? eww. That sounds an awful lot like communism to me.
TigerAce@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 weeks ago
Every bike in The Netherlands is automatically equipped with a radio locked on a communist radio station frequency with a loud speaker which cannot be turned off. If the police find you with the radio off or not loud enough, you will be sent to the Gulag called Urk where you will be forced to produce stroopwafels for the glory of the workers!
aeternum@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 weeks ago
Oh my. Must suck living in a socialist hellhole. Free healthcare that doesn’t send you bankrupt if you have the misfortune of becoming sick. I’ll stick with crippling debt for life thank you very much (not really. I’m in Australia)
unexposedhazard@discuss.tchncs.de 2 weeks ago
Thats the thing with biking, at that speed you dont need signals or anything. People will just figure it out.
Valmond@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
And accidents are rarely fatal.
Rothe@piefed.social 2 weeks ago
As long as you wear a helmet.