If "James Bond" is a codename, would a hypothetical female operative filling the same role receive the same codename?

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• Kolanaki@pawb.social ⁨21⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

  Jamss Bond was his actual name.

  007 was his code name, and they would replace it when an agent with that designation were to die or retire.

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  • massive_bereavement@fedia.io ⁨19⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    That doesn't seem very clever, going around sharing your own name despite being a spy.

    Yet Ian Flemming was supposed to use his past experience in British Intelligence to come up with Bond's novels, so what do I know.

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    • Infrapink@thebrainbin.org ⁨18⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      It's actually standard practice for secret agents to use their real names, as accidentally failing to respond to a pseudonym is one if the easiest ways to blow their cover.

      Furthermore, Bond is a secret agent. The fact that he's a spy who has tons if amazing adventures is not public knowledge, let alone well-known. We the audience know James Bond as a super-popular action hero from a long series of movies, but in his own universe there is nothing particularly special or noteworthy about the name James Bond.

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    • Kolanaki@pawb.social ⁨18⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      He wasn’t really a good spy. 🤷‍♂️

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  • ArchmageAzor@lemmy.world ⁨17⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    It’s like a fan theory, which explains why James Bond has always been James Bond despite having many different actors portray him.

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  • MacNCheezus@lemmy.today ⁨16⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    Correct. This did in fact happen in No Time to Die (though of course ::: spoiler he ends up gaining it back by the end of the movie :::)

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• Zier@fedia.io ⁨16⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

  Her name could be Jaymes Bond.
  And there is no reason a girl cannot be called James.
  Nikita is female in most of the world, except Russia.
  Carrol is a man's name, and Carol is a woman's name.
  Tony can be a man or a woman.
  Names only have genders because we assign them that trait.
  If all the guys you ever knew in your life were called "Sophia", it would be weird for a girl to take that name.
  A name is just a name, no matter how weird, unique or cool it is, it's just a name.

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  • GraniteM@lemmy.world ⁨14⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    Michael Burnham

    Jayne Cobb

    Willow Ulfgood

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  • AllNewTypeFace@leminal.space ⁨11⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    Elton John, then still not fully out of the closet, made good use of that, writing a love song titled Nikita, though having the love interest in the video be a blonde woman in a fur hat (presumably to appease the record company).

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• MuskyMelon@lemmy.world ⁨21⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

  Well in NTTD, the number 007 was assigned to the Lashana Lynch character named Nomi so “James Bond” is probably not a code name. Otherwise 008 would be “Alex Trevelyan”, etc.

  Easier to reassign the designation number.

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  • glimse@lemmy.world ⁨15⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    Just want to say that I think they handled the Nomi thing very well in the movie. They were VERY aware of what the audience reaction would be and played into it. They could have pandered a couple different ways and chose not to

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• quinkin@lemmy.world ⁨18⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

  Jane S’Bond

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• Zwuzelmaus@feddit.org ⁨19⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

  Once there was a Mrs. Bond…

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• TranquilTurbulence@lemmy.zip ⁨21⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

  If Disney buys the 007 brand, you can be sure there will be black female James Bond.

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  • MotoAsh@piefed.social ⁨20⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    and yet that would fit the designation discussion going on. Interesting how you want to turn it in to a racist shitpost instead of discussing it like someone with more than a lonely braincell crying out for attention.

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    • TranquilTurbulence@lemmy.zip ⁨18⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      Didn’t expect a strong reaction like that. Then again, I didn’t think it through before hitting send. My bad.

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  • Naich@lemmings.world ⁨20⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    There was a black female 007 in the last film you dimwit. She was bloody good too. I’d be happy for her to be the next bond, but she won’t be.

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    • False@lemmy.world ⁨18⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      I haven’t seen it, was James Bond dead or something so his code name got given away?

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    • TranquilTurbulence@lemmy.zip ⁨18⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      Oh. Totally missed that one. Oops. Haven’t sent the last few films.

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    • corsicanguppy@lemmy.ca ⁨18⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      I didn’t like Ms Lynch as the actor, though. I didn’t respond well to her portrayal and I thought it was just … off. I don’t know.

      Sonequa Martin-green makes an excellent cop and a decent zombie-fighter, and I think she’d make an excellent bond if we’re looking to upset the rednecks.

      But they’ll probably keep it a stuffy male brit character, so Cilian Murphy or Henry Cavill, but I would have loved to’ve seen Idris Elba get a turn.

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  • RedSeries@lemmy.blahaj.zone ⁨18⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    Would you consider it “woke” or something if they did?

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    • TranquilTurbulence@lemmy.zip ⁨17⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      I can see why you ask that. Since I didn’t think that comment though very well, now every downvoter considers me a racist. Fair enough. Should have rewritten it entirely, but it’s too late for that now.

      Long and nuanced posts are boring to read while short and snappy ones involve skipping all the important details. Also, swiping away carelessly doesn’t help.

      I was mainly thinking about the fact that Disney tends to change things significantly and abruptly. For example, many Star Wars fans were disappointed by the changes, so I thought that 007 fans could face similar disappointments. What those changes actually are do not really matter to me. What matters more is how quickly they happen and how much the direction of the entire series changes.

      I don’t use the term “woke” to describe the changes Disney makes, since I prefer to distance myself from the crowd that uses it. Focussing more on the rate of change and its magnitude is more interesting to me.

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    • lauha@lemmy.world ⁨14⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      Woke is just a term for human rights that fascist want to take away.

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  • MuskyMelon@lemmy.world ⁨16⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    There’s already been a black female 007.

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    • TranquilTurbulence@lemmy.zip ⁨16⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      Yeah, I just found it. Missed the last movies, so I guess I should check it out.

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  • Cevilia@lemmy.blahaj.zone ⁨20⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    I doubt Amazon are looking to sell.

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• solrize@lemmy.ml ⁨20⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

  In one story I read, all holders of the 007 designation were automatically called Bond, but idr if their first name became James. It definitely included women either way.

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