Submitted 3 weeks ago by Cevilia@lemmy.blahaj.zone to [deleted]
This one’s probably a question with no answer because the boys’ club are vanishingly unlikely to cast a woman to play Bond.
Well in NTTD, the number 007 was assigned to the Lashana Lynch character named Nomi so “James Bond” is probably not a code name. Otherwise 008 would be “Alex Trevelyan”, etc.
Easier to reassign the designation number.
Just want to say that I think they handled the Nomi thing very well in the movie. They were VERY aware of what the audience reaction would be and played into it. They could have pandered a couple different ways and chose not to
Her name could be Jaymes Bond.
And there is no reason a girl cannot be called James.
Nikita is female in most of the world, except Russia.
Carrol is a man's name, and Carol is a woman's name.
Tony can be a man or a woman.
Names only have genders because we assign them that trait.
If all the guys you ever knew in your life were called "Sophia", it would be weird for a girl to take that name.
A name is just a name, no matter how weird, unique or cool it is, it's just a name.
Elton John, then still not fully out of the closet, made good use of that, writing a love song titled Nikita, though having the love interest in the video be a blonde woman in a fur hat (presumably to appease the record company).
Michael Burnham
Jayne Cobb
Willow Ulfgood
A name is a name till it becomes female then it never goes back. It’s a weird phenomenon. Names going from male to female seems fine but not the other way.
Damned interesting! Where’s the Homer Simpson quote about old guys having all the cool names like Carol and Meredith and Lesley?
But James Bond is supposed to be a bland forgettable name since Jaymes is an uncommon name for a woman it would be much more rememberable
Jane S’Bond
In Casino Royale (the real one from 1967) they actually do that. They call every agent, male and female, James Bond to confuse the enemy.
If Disney buys the 007 brand, you can be sure there will be black female James Bond.
and yet that would fit the designation discussion going on. Interesting how you want to turn it in to a racist shitpost instead of discussing it like someone with more than a lonely braincell crying out for attention.
Didn’t expect a strong reaction like that. Then again, I didn’t think it through before hitting send. My bad.
There was a black female 007 in the last film you dimwit. She was bloody good too. I’d be happy for her to be the next bond, but she won’t be.
I haven’t seen it, was James Bond dead or something so his code name got given away?
Oh. Totally missed that one. Oops. Haven’t sent the last few films.
I didn’t like Ms Lynch as the actor, though. I didn’t respond well to her portrayal and I thought it was just … off. I don’t know.
Sonequa Martin-green makes an excellent cop and a decent zombie-fighter, and I think she’d make an excellent bond if we’re looking to upset the rednecks.
But they’ll probably keep it a stuffy male brit character, so Cilian Murphy or Henry Cavill, but I would have loved to’ve seen Idris Elba get a turn.
Would you consider it “woke” or something if they did?
I can see why you ask that. Since I didn’t think that comment though very well, now every downvoter considers me a racist. Fair enough. Should have rewritten it entirely, but it’s too late for that now.
Long and nuanced posts are boring to read while short and snappy ones involve skipping all the important details. Also, swiping away carelessly doesn’t help.
I was mainly thinking about the fact that Disney tends to change things significantly and abruptly. For example, many Star Wars fans were disappointed by the changes, so I thought that 007 fans could face similar disappointments. What those changes actually are do not really matter to me. What matters more is how quickly they happen and how much the direction of the entire series changes.
I don’t use the term “woke” to describe the changes Disney makes, since I prefer to distance myself from the crowd that uses it. Focussing more on the rate of change and its magnitude is more interesting to me.
Woke is just a term for human rights that fascist want to take away.
There’s already been a black female 007.
Yeah, I just found it. Missed the last movies, so I guess I should check it out.
I doubt Amazon are looking to sell.
Once there was a Mrs. Bond…
In one story I read, all holders of the 007 designation were automatically called Bond, but idr if their first name became James. It definitely included women either way.
Anyone who’s seen Casino Royale (2006) knows the codename theory is horseshit. Bond was Bond before he was a 00. Later, when he resigns from MI6, he’s still Bond. It’s his name.
Same with anyone who’s seen GoldenEye. If Bond was a codename, Trevelyan would be too, and he’d have mentioned that he no longer went by that MI6-given moniker.
You’re thinking of Jane Fonda
Kolanaki@pawb.social 3 weeks ago
Jamss Bond was his actual name.
007 was his code name, and they would replace it when an agent with that designation were to die or retire.
massive_bereavement@fedia.io 3 weeks ago
That doesn't seem very clever, going around sharing your own name despite being a spy.
Yet Ian Flemming was supposed to use his past experience in British Intelligence to come up with Bond's novels, so what do I know.
Infrapink@thebrainbin.org 3 weeks ago
It's actually standard practice for secret agents to use their real names, as accidentally failing to respond to a pseudonym is one if the easiest ways to blow their cover.
Furthermore, Bond is a secret agent. The fact that he's a spy who has tons if amazing adventures is not public knowledge, let alone well-known. We the audience know James Bond as a super-popular action hero from a long series of movies, but in his own universe there is nothing particularly special or noteworthy about the name James Bond.
Kolanaki@pawb.social 3 weeks ago
He wasn’t really a good spy. 🤷♂️
DamienGramatacus@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
He goes undercover in one of the books. His pseudonym is Mark Hazard.
ArchmageAzor@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
It’s like a fan theory, which explains why James Bond has always been James Bond despite having many different actors portray him.
MacNCheezus@lemmy.today 3 weeks ago
Correct. This did in fact happen in No Time to Die (though of course ::: spoiler he ends up gaining it back by the end of the movie :::)