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Submitted ⁨⁨14⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago⁩ by ⁨fossilesque@mander.xyz⁩ to ⁨science_memes@mander.xyz⁩

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  • Jakeroxs@sh.itjust.works ⁨13⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    I did a report on this in 5th grade, people thought I was making it up.

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    • Quill7513@slrpnk.net ⁨12⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      i had someone here on lemmy try to say the scientists recruited to the US via operation paperclip weren’t involved in crimes against humanity. a lot of people have missed in the shuffle of the past 80 years exactly what happened during the holocaust.

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      • TheRealKuni@piefed.social ⁨12⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

        The US is all about realpolitik, and begins to make a lot more sense when you look at everything through a Kissinger-shaped lens (rest in piss, you evil bastard). We pretend to be ideological so our citizenry can feel good about ourselves, but the way the nation operates is purely pragmatic. Look no further than Israel-Palestine and how buddy-buddy we are with Saudi Arabia for modern examples. Even our support of Ukraine, while overlapping with an ethical imperative, is driven primarily by the interests of NATO and the relatively inexpensive degradation of Russia’s military and political standing we can participate in. We only give a shit about “human rights” when it benefits us.

        Operation Paperclip was pragmatism. It creates a sense of cognitive dissonance when we try to hold in our minds that we brought Nazi scientists over and the idea that we’re “the good guys” and fought for “justice,” so our brains try to reduce that cognitive dissonance by saying those scientists weren’t behind any of the evils of the Nazis. They were, obviously. That didn’t matter to our government, but they kept the operation classified for a reason.

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      • kameecoding@lemmy.world ⁨8⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

        I think the US media has washed their image so clean with the WW2 movies that most people have no idea about stuff like the nazi rally happened in the US and the support for eugenics in the Us, and the concentration camps in the Us.

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  • AnarchoBolshevik@lemmygrad.ml ⁨1⁩ ⁨hour⁩ ago

    It’s not really funny.

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  • Bytemeister@lemmy.world ⁨8⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    To be fair to Von Braun, he did have slaves build his rockets.

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    • captain_aggravated@sh.itjust.works ⁨32⁩ ⁨minutes⁩ ago

      Wasn’t just Von Braun and the V2. Me-262s were built with forced labor. Then there’s the Comet, which was an amazingly bad idea. I’m surprised it wasn’t flown by slave labor, as little as they seemed to care for the pilot’s safety. The fuel was so corrosive that if it leaked the pilot would be dissolved alive.

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  • carrylex@lemmy.world ⁨11⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    Meanwhile in the Soviet Union

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    • Ferrous@lemmy.ml ⁨10⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      The difference is that the Americans rolled out a red carpet for the Nazis and offered employment contracts. The Soviets showed up one night and kidnapped nearly 7000 nazis at gunpoint, and then forced them to work to pay reparations. Based.

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      • AnarchoBolshevik@lemmygrad.ml ⁨1⁩ ⁨hour⁩ ago

        When the Allies reclaimed Nordhausen it was the anticommunists, not the Soviets, who ended up with the larger share of the scientific materials.

        The remaining Axis scientists that the Soviets did capture still had to live in unglamorous conditions: on some projects the Soviet authorities limited the rôle of the Axis specialists merely to consultation and practical training.

        Finally, three anticommunist rocket experts confirmed that by 1952 the U.S.S.R. had sent most of these Axis scientists back home, and that the Soviets (obviously) made major strides on their own.

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    • DragonTypeWyvern@midwest.social ⁨10⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      And now the Marxist state is a fascist one.

      Hmm.

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      • ShoeThrower@lemmy.zip ⁨1⁩ ⁨hour⁩ ago

        And the one that fought fascism is a fascist one.

        Hmm.

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  • TheRealKuni@piefed.social ⁨12⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    Wernher von Braun by Tom Lehrer

    R.I.P. Tom Lehrer

    (Heard this first in For All Mankind, an excellent show I recommend to everyone, pirate it if you don’t have Apple TV+.)

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  • Cat_Daddy@hexbear.net ⁨13⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    I feel like the “Nazi SS Officer” part should also be the ostrich

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  • Goretantath@lemmy.world ⁨11⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    Its the reason the USA is fucked right now, they witness protectioned a bunch of nazis and they grew familys based on evil values.

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    • carrylex@lemmy.world ⁨10⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      Well Wernher von Braun was a weird one… for example he opposed segregation while some local govenor clearly did not

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      • daniskarma@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨7⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

        I do not think german nazis were too motivated against africans, specially african-americans. They were ultra racist against Jewish and Slavic.

        The American nazis were the ones obsessed with skin color against black people.

        At least that’s the impression I get when reading about those times.

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    • bennieandthez@lemmygrad.ml ⁨10⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      Hitler was inspired by the US manifest destiny and genocide of the native americans, nazis did well in the US because they fit perfectly in, they did not corrupt the US.

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    • Bristlecone@lemmy.world ⁨10⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      Among other things

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  • yucandu@lemmy.world ⁨11⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    What were they supposed to do, leave them all to Operation Osoaviakhim?

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    • Quill7513@slrpnk.net ⁨10⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      the problem after WWII was there was only one christopher lee

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      • if_only@sh.itjust.works ⁨2⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

        How many were there before that?

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