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Wreck the economy because it only works for the billionaire class.
Submitted 1 year ago by eee@lemm.ee to workreform@lemmy.world
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HawlSera@lemm.ee 1 year ago
MrBusinessMan@lemm.ee 1 year ago
Seems very ungrateful to the job creators and innovators that just because the economy doesnt work for you, you want to wreck it for us too. Why not try starting up your own car company instead of cutting into the profits of the hard working Ford and GM families.
SkySyrup@sh.itjust.works 1 year ago
username checks out
Viking_Hippie@lemmy.world 1 year ago
User is a sarcastic concept account cosplaying as the most ridiculous pro-billionaire stooge possible 😁
Pavidus@lemmy.world 1 year ago
I’m impressed that you made it through posting that comment without drowning in bullshit. Bravo.
NatakuNox@lemmy.world 1 year ago
Uhhhh what?! Lol the car manufacturers made $32 billion in profit last year. A record amount. Are you honestly going to say there’s not enough money to pay their works a livable wage? The union isn’t even being out of line for what they are asking for. 400,000 workers even devided across everyone equally (which isn’t what the are asking.) would be $80,000 a year. That’s a life changing amount of money for those workers cbd would do better in their hands, apposed to a few executives and owners. However, that’s not even close to what they are asking for! So you are lying or dumb.
MrBusinessMan@lemm.ee 1 year ago
The car manufacturers need that profit to distribute to their shareholders, or do stock buyback or whatever best benefits the share price etc. By doing so they are helping the whole economy and that money will eventually trickle down to the little guys in some form or another.
Cryophilia@lemmy.world 1 year ago
It’s a parody account, you dumb fucks
Pull the sticks out of your asses for christ sake
criitz@reddthat.com 1 year ago
He who gets his laughs by pretending to be idiots will eventually be flooded by actual idiots who mistakenly believe that they’re in good company.
_cerpin_taxt_@lemmy.world 1 year ago
When you have to point out that something is satire, it’s pretty dogshit satire.
Nahvi@lemmy.world 1 year ago
Billionaires aren’t the ones that starve when the economy implodes.
This kind of rhetoric is what makes moderates ambivalent about unions. Sure we support your goals but the side-effects of that cure are ten times worse than the disease itself.
burntbutterbiscuits@sh.itjust.works 1 year ago
You’re talking out of your ass.
75% of Americans support the UAW
Twentytwodividedby7@lemmy.world 1 year ago
Just because there is public support does not mean it’s right. Tanking the economy will only hurt the majority, billionaires literally won’t notice. It’s not just the UAW that’s impacted, there’s huge ripple effects. Many suppliers were barely hanging on and this will probably be a death knell. And honestly, this is what makes me fucking hate working in Financial Services for one of the big 3.
I run a department that performs forecasting that eventually influences the affordability of leasing globally and I’m responsiblefor a $25B portfolio. I work my ass off and I have a new family with a 1 year old - we were having a decent year finally after 3 bad ones, then this fucker comes along and is going to tank it.
So now my family is going to suffer because of something completely unrelated to my role and performance. He makes sound bites, but the sides are so far apart it’s ridiculous. They accuse the companies of negotiating in bad faith, yet the UAW has yet to respond to any offer with a counter. They’ve been offered 20%+ raises, cost of living adjustments, signing bonuses, elimination of tiers, more holidays off, and better profit sharing - which is a huge improvement and gets them the majority of what they are asking for, but they’ve literally thrown that in the trash. My bet is all he will accomplish is more factories moving to non-UAW locations or Mexico.
What exactly is the advantage of being American made when the workers turn out the worst quality for the highest wages and they can shut down production on a whim every few years? It’s honestly very frustrating to see this issue not being taken seriously here and there seems to be such little appreciation for the broader impacts.
Nahvi@lemmy.world 1 year ago
Most Americans would like a cost-of living increase ourselves. It is easy to support the UAW when they are going for a goal we agree with; especially when it costs us nothing.
If the UAW intentionally makes that cost another economic recession/depression, we will see how strong that support is.
Glimpythegoblin@lemm.ee 1 year ago
“moderates”
Nahvi@lemmy.world 1 year ago
Yes, “moderates”.
Those of us who realize the building we all live in is old, has holes in the windows and floors, and never had an elevator installed, but would still prefer to renovate it than burn it down. Yes, we know some people are getting wet, or fell through the floor, and a few can’t even get to their rooms, but the majority of us are warm, well-fed, and mildly entertained. We definitely need to get the holes patched and we should work on some sort of lift, but burning the place down is not going to help those who are missing out now and will harm everyone else in the process.
Viking_Hippie@lemmy.world 1 year ago
This kind of rhetoric is what makes moderates ambivalent about unions
No. That would be the constant drone of pro-establishment and thus pro-billionaire propaganda from the billionaire-owned corporations that dominate the media landscape.
Also, here’s a song about moderates for you.
Nahvi@lemmy.world 1 year ago
Thank you for the link from a billionaire-owned corporation. I would consider listening to it, but I don’t use google products anymore than necessary. Also, youtube transcript doesn’t seem to work on it.
Saltblue@lemmy.world 1 year ago
Ohh look a centrist what a disgusting piece of shit
Nahvi@lemmy.world 1 year ago
Very constructive. I am sure you convince a lot of people of the rightness of your opinions with your eloquent speeches.
gibmiser@lemmy.world 1 year ago
War is never worth it for the ones who die fighting it. That is why we honor them for their sacrifices.
Nahvi@lemmy.world 1 year ago
As long as they chose to join the fight sure, but when you start dropping bombs in civilian areas it becomes harder and harder to justify that war.
burntbutterbiscuits@sh.itjust.works 1 year ago
People like you ARE the disease
Nahvi@lemmy.world 1 year ago
Thank you for your well-thought-out and oh so eloquent opinion.
Shadywack@lemmy.world 1 year ago
The problem is that the billionaires never starve. They just end up with slightly less fathomless oceans of cash while we can afford rent or a mortgage.
If this doesn’t work, it’s time for some guillotines, then nobody has to starve at all.
Cryophilia@lemmy.world 1 year ago
Lol a ton of people literally starved during the Reign of Terror
You keyboard warriors are so annoying
Nahvi@lemmy.world 1 year ago
then nobody has to starve at all.
Ah yes, more cannibalism! How long exactly do you think 999 people can survive off of eating one?
tryptaminev@feddit.de 1 year ago
Thanks to people who want to retain the status quo that economic crisis are handled by fucking the poor and bailing out the rich. That is not a law of nature btw. It is a choice made by both large american parties every time.
The US could also increases taxes, seize assets from rich people and imprison tax evaders. With that money they could invest in infrastructure, schools, hospitals, renewable energies… That would bring the economy back on track and also help everyone to prosper.
What you describe is the result of deliberate disaster capitalism, where crisis are embraced as an opportunity to steal from the poor and give to the rich.
Nahvi@lemmy.world 1 year ago
seize assets from rich people
I agree with everything you said except this bit. The 4th Amendment is supposed (glares at imminent domain) to protect us from a tyrannical government seizing our assets just because they want them.
Cryophilia@lemmy.world 1 year ago
both large american parties
Whoa whoa whoa let’s not “both sides” this shit. There is one party doing this, and another party sometimes having to make concessions to them.
The US could also increases taxes, seize assets from rich people and imprison tax evaders. With that money they could invest in infrastructure, schools, hospitals, renewable energies…
Guess which party is working on all of this right now (minus the higher taxes part)?
Hint: the answer is not “neither”
vivavideri@lemmy.world 1 year ago
Billionaires? Starve?
Honytawk@lemmy.zip 1 year ago
Poor aren’t either, since they got some nice rich to cook on a spit roast.
Nahvi@lemmy.world 1 year ago
Yes, haha very funny, let’s all become cannibals of the rich. I’m sure that everyone will get a mouthful of that yummy long pig. What are the poor going to eat after that?
yogurt@lemmy.world 1 year ago
“Is there a crime here that goes beyond denunciation? No. It’s the grapes of wrath who are wrong.”
StopJoiningWars@discuss.online 3 months ago
The “economy” will exist whether it’s a capitalist system or something else. Blaming the system is a stupid take when it’s the actors within it causing the issues you complain about.
It’s like blaming gravity.
notsure@fedia.io 7 months ago
How does the working class not realise that the wealthy are the sodden bitch in a bog handing out the sword? Jeeebus
severien@lemmy.world 1 year ago
I don’t get it, do they think that wrecking the economy will not wreck them as well? The rock bottom is still pretty far.
Coreidan@lemmy.world 1 year ago
Ya you clearly don’t get it. The economy is already destroyed for poor people. You can’t wreck what is already destroyed. Since the economy is already destroyed for poor people the next step is pulling the rich down with us and making them bleed.
SCB@lemmy.world 1 year ago
The economy is already destroyed for poor people
Literally no member of the UAW is poor.
DessertStorms@kbin.social 1 year ago
The rock bottom is still pretty far
for you perhaps, millions if not billions globally are already there.
Choosing the status quo to maintain your own minor and almost certainly temporary comforts over change serves no one but the obscenely rich and powerful.Cryophilia@lemmy.world 1 year ago
We’re not talking globally though.
Vodik_VDK@lemmy.world 1 year ago
The next step is pretty difficult, as far as I can tell. Survival at task will require crime, suffering, and mutual aid.
intensely_human@lemm.ee 1 year ago
Right, the economy isn’t something that supports the life of all humans. Billionaires have yachts so it must only be working for them. And since only billionaires benefit from the economy, we can wreck it no problem. There won’t be deaths from starvation and exposure, because food and housing aren’t part of the economy we’re going to wreck.
FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 1 year ago
People in America are already starving.
unfreeradical@lemmy.world 1 year ago
I am sorry you missed the theme. Please let me help.
The objective is to build an economy that supports everyone being well fed and well housed, instead of affording rockets, jets, yachts, and multiple homes for the very few, while many more remain hungry and unhoused.
JargonWagon@lemmy.world 1 year ago
/s
Ibex0@lemmy.world 1 year ago
The economy isn’t perfect, but it pays my bills.
GreenMario@lemm.ee 1 year ago
Maybe those bills shouldn’t exist? Hmm?
seeCseas@lemmy.world 1 year ago
MOD NOTE: BE NICE.
It’s ok to disagree, it’s not ok to insult or threaten other posters with violence.
SocialMediaRefugee@lemmy.world 1 year ago
I’d rather not be sent into poverty like in 1930s Germany tyvm. The “winner takes all” mentality though needs to go. The US especially has a lottery winning mentality.
Dick@lemmy.world 1 year ago
[deleted]Cryophilia@lemmy.world 1 year ago
Ah, you’re one of those “I never personally heard about the plan so there must not be one” people. You guys got on my last nerve during the pandemic.
Dick@lemmy.world 1 year ago
Huh? No I would just like to know what’s the plan so I can do my part. Otherwise it’s just empty words to me like I said. I’ve heard this eat the rich sort of talk for years now. What’s good is it if nothing ever comes of it?
Demuniac@lemmy.world 1 year ago
I mean you could Google UAW like I did and find their website with a few details on what they are doing.
thewut@lemmy.world 1 year ago
[deleted]GreatGrapeApe@reddthat.com 1 year ago
Why are you linking a trash source like this here? The guy is a chemical engineer who was antivaxx and despite lacking the scientific background made a lot of unqualified claims.
Given they are a complete joke when discussing subjects outside their expertise why would you think this has credibility?
rynzcycle@kbin.social 1 year ago
MrCharles@lemmy.world 1 year ago
That… is a very…VERY BAD IDEA.
Billionaires have enough money to survive an economic crash without batting an eyelid. Do you?
Maggoty@lemmy.world 1 year ago
Most billionaires aren’t billionaires in cash. If the market crashes, so do they. Now they might be reduced to “only” a hundred million or so but that can be catastrophic when your personal finances depend on billions in stock backing up a series of long term rotating loans.
They wanted to use the market to exploit the people. But that makes them vulnerable in a way rich people didn’t used to be vulnerable.
Gerula@lemmy.world 1 year ago
Yeah, but that “catastrophe” you and I won’t see it. We would have dies already out of hunger or disease. You cannot survive only on hate itself.
RagingRobot@lemmy.world 1 year ago
Yeah if we keep basing everything on money! We need to go back to bartering