Election Truth Alliance is already investigating claims in some areas, maybe they can help or maybe your evidence can help them.
If I found voter irregularities in my home district do I have to hire a lawyer to prove it.? Or just let it go and the Florida Orange win?
Submitted 3 weeks ago by Patnou@lemmy.world to [deleted]
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cecilkorik@piefed.ca 3 weeks ago
SupraMario@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
All votes really need a numbered receipt, like a tracking number, that shows what that number voted for, and then posted publicly. This way if you think you’re vote was changed you can go and look online to see if it matches how you voted…but doubt this would ever be put in place.
pelespirit@sh.itjust.works 3 weeks ago
I don’t think that’s a good idea at all. Leaks happen all the time and everyone knows that a lot of those machines are compromised. If republicans know exactly who voted for who, that could be an Alligator Auschwitz trip for certain people.
SupraMario@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
The problem is, that it’s either a system with checks or you get a system with no checks fraud.
This would still be anonymous, you vote, it prints out a ticket number just for you not assigned to anyone but the votes that have been cast. You walk out of the voting booth with a ticket that has a number assigned to the votes nothing more.
garbagebagel@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
I was thinking if it’s just a ballot that has a number but it’s not attached to your name. I.e. if the person handing out the ballots gives you a random one and you’re the only one who knows your own number. I’ve never used electric voting machines but maybe a randomly generated number that you can know but nobody else would know?
halcyoncmdr@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
That’s illegal in most places. Votes are anonymous specifically because people have been threatened to vote certain ways in the past. If you aren’t given proof of voting a specific way you can’t be forced to vote a specific way.
thefactremains@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
Also because it’s an effective way to prove you voted a certain way to a vote buyer.
Lemming6969@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
This is the exact use-case for a blockchain, a public immutable ledger where you can validate your vote, but nobody can tie it back to you.
pupbiru@aussie.zone 2 weeks ago
the point of anonymous voting is coercion. if you can validate your vote outside of a safe polling place then someone else is able to validate how you voted and force you to vote a particular way
Natanael@infosec.pub 2 weeks ago
You’re forgetting about the traffic analysis and key distribution problems
chicken@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 weeks ago
Could this be done such that a person cannot prove that they voted a certain way (the source of the problems people mention, like vote selling becoming viable)?
FundMECFSResearch@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 weeks ago
No one seems to be understanding that your system doesn’t make who you vote for public…
SupraMario@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
Yea… I’m kinda seeing that. It’s not a hard concept lol it’s a paper receipt. Toss it away if you’re worried about it.
edgemaster72@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
I believe the traditional way to bring attention to suspected voting fraud is to shit your pants in front of a Four Seasons Landscaping
Shotgun_Alice@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
It’s not that I don’t believe you, but extraordinary claims, require extraordinary evidence. Is what you found that extraordinary?
Lasherz12@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
I think you’d be best served by doing all due diligence and proving this to be the case before approaching media. A lawyer would be if you were harmed, so if your vote was not counted, then you were harmed. There also needs to be a known plaintiff, though, so you need a lot of data for that step. You can’t simply use conjecture for legal proceedings, which is why Trump lost or rendered null every case he filed in 2020.
A_Random_Idiot@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
A lawyer would be if you were harmed
A lawyer can also help guide you through the legal and procedural issues. Lawyers are not for just if you are harmed.
It would probably also you a bit more legitimacy, if you can get a known lawyer helping you… Cause any crank can make a claim, but a known lawyer wont risk their reputation/license/job on happenstance with little evidence.
Patnou@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
So lets say I got like 500 signatures that say they voted Harris? But our district only showed 50?
ragingHungryPanda@lemmy.zip 2 weeks ago
Is there not the local election commission? How did you find it? If there’s an individual, there’s likely a way to report them.
kometes@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
You could reach out to the wronged party as even local parties have lawyers…
SolidShake@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
Idk call a local news station. They will be your free lawyer.
bobs_monkey@lemmy.zip 3 weeks ago
At this point I’m fairly confident that they could find irrevocable proof that the 2024 election was a sham, and nothing would come of it.
Lost_My_Mind@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
I believe that to be correct.
Your assesment, not the result.
original_charles@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
Doesn’t mean that they shouldn’t try though.
JcbAzPx@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
At this point that’s true. Even in a stolen election the only legal way to remove the president is the impeachment process. This congress wouldn’t impeach him even if he gave a daily public display of his favorite pastime on Epstein’s island.
T156@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
Doesn’t the Congress and Election College have final say? The rest of it could be a sham, but what they say goes.
njm1314@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
I don’t know if I agree with that. I guess it depends on the Local News station. And if they’re actually local.