Submitted 22 hours ago by gratux@lemmy.blahaj.zone to mildlyinfuriating@lemmy.world
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The green sign reads “Please don’t leave empty boxes here. Bring them to the bin outside”
With this kind of problems there are always two solutions: one is pragmatic, one is wishful thinking.
Problem: people leave boxes in the room.
Pragmatic solution: give them a trash can that’s easy to use.
Wishful thinking: slap a sign that tells them to stop.
Germany needs more pragmatic solutions in general.
I’ve noticed that people often put in near minimum acceptable effort to go optional tasks. The trick seems to be to make the easiest “acceptable” solution, to be an acceptable one.
Shopping carts are another example. The perfect solution is for people to return them to the front of the store. But that’s too much effort for many. They leave them wherever they can dump it. An acceptable one is to return them to collection points. It’s not optimal, but it’s better, and most people will actually do it.
In Germany (and I assume all throughout Europe) we solve the shopping cart problem by shoppers having to deposit a coin or chip into the cart to release it.
You get it back when you lock the cart again back where you took it
in paper yeah the pragmatic solution would work
the next problem though is the asinine amount of people who bring their boxes to customer service stuff and expect the store to take care of it the trash can would only work if people were either asked to break down their boxes (unlikely) or if it was mechanically able to break down the boxes for the person. then there’s the next problem of making it idiot proof because crunching machines and flesh don’t work well together.
sorry I’m extra salty because I just got back from a shift were I deal with these kind of people for the whole day. there’s no winning.
They would peobably need a small trash compactor for the boxes to crush them.
I think it’s Austria. “Packerl”
The green sign reads “Please don’t leave empty boxes here. Bring them to the bin outside”
No it doesn’t. It has a bad slogan in big font: “If we all unpack here, we can all pack up” (the idiom probably works if you squint hard enough). Then “Please don’t leave waste paper (carton) in the self-service-zone. Carry your empty package to the container. The environment will be just as happy as us”.
It does not say where the container is (despite the definitive article in English, it’s not implied that there even is one at location), nor does it have relevant information in large letters, just lots of fluff. It’s accessively passive-aggressive, trying to give the impression that it’s all polite while simultaneously ordering you around.
Here’s what would work: Big: “Waste paper container is around the corner”. Small: “Please. Thanks”. You don’t have to convince people, you just have to make it convenient and they’ll be happy to carry their stuff five metres instead of playing carton Jenga.
Also they’re using “Packerl” for package that’s probably Austria. Maybe Switzerland it’s not like I’m a specialist in southern gibberish. Also not enough yellow for a Deutsche Post shop.
Nailed it!
If you assume that people actually want to do the right thing if it’s easy, and then you make it easy, it usually works.
Even when this isn’t enough, it should still come before anything else.
Also they’re using “Packerl” for package that’s probably Austria. Maybe Switzerland it’s not like I’m a specialist in mountain gibberish.
As a native speaker of mountain gibberish I can tell you that’s not ours. Either Austria or maybe Bavaria. Their gibberish seems similar to me sometimes.
Austrian and Bavarian gibberish indeed is the same, one tribe, different states. The rest of the sign isn’t in Boarisch though so in Bavaria you’d expect it to be completely in Standard German. Bundesrepublik Standard German, that is, not Austrian Standard German with heuer, Jänner, Paradeiser, and whatnot.
As far as I can tell those are packages someone received, right? Pretty easy to track down those morons.
Indeed, but i fear neither the employees nor the police would be particularly motivated to do that.
Is there really one outside?
Because I know a bunch of Post Stations where they just tell you to bring it to A container. They don’t provide one at the location.
This whole problem could be nullified either
A) by actually delivering the package and not just putting into a SB Station (because the package deliverer was too lazy) or
B) Provide a container on the location to throw the carton in. OR
C) Don’t have Amazon & Co ahip oversized boxes I cannot carry.
It’s shitty these people let their empty boxes here but the Post is not without some fault either
In this case, I believe there is a container right outside the door.
Regardless, you can’t just leave your trash wherever you want.
Regardless, you can’t just leave your trash wherever you want.
I believe those other people have proven you wrong.
Can’t have anything nice
Please-shmease… I don’t know German, but I would write something like “Achtung, schwine! Carton verboten. Schissen”. If you’re TOO polite, they will crawl on you head and shit there.
The Germans are invading!
Diese Kommentarsektion ist nun Eigentum der Republik Österreich.
Yeah I was annoyed too when they removed the trash cans right next to it.
Why even have a self service station?
You can send and receive parcels at any time you like without them being stolen from your doorstep, and it helps to reduce the workload of the understaffed counter.
So what, they’re just lying there and anyone can take them?
Here you either go to the till and they give you the parcel and you leave. Or there’s a lockbox which you can retrieve it and leave.
I’m all for taking those people and shoving their boxes over their heads.
jordanlund@lemmy.world 21 hours ago
In Germany even! I’d expect that in the US, shocking for Germany!
gratux@lemmy.blahaj.zone 21 hours ago
This is in Austria, but yes, your point stands.
Duke_Nukem_1990@feddit.org 4 hours ago
Give it some time, with the way things are going.
Poem_for_your_sprog@lemmy.world 16 hours ago
This looks like everywhere in the US.