Tech Companies Apparently Do Not Understand Why We Dislike AI

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• lvxferre@mander.xyz ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  I’m not opposed to A"I"; far from that, I actually use text generators a fair bit, sometimes image gens. It’s simply a technology and I use it as such. And I still bloody hate how corporations handle it:

  • Always two weights, two measures. If you violate their IP, you’re a filthy criminal; if they violate yours, you’re overreacting and a luddite and harming progress. I want to see copyright gone, but if it is not, then apply it consistently to all sides. (By the way, fuck “Open"A"I” and their Bob Dylan defence.)
  • Always nagging you to use it. If you’re nagging me to use something, it’s because it’s in yours best interests that I use it, not mine. No means “no” dammit.
  • Always implicitly lying about its abilities. No, I’m not going to ask it anything where a bullshit answer might ruin my day, stop misleading me to do so.
  • Always downplaying issues. Yeah, nah, I’m not blind to the environmental concerns around training those huge models. Or that corporations - that don’t understand what “consent” means - basically DDoS sites to train their models.

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• deegeese@sopuli.xyz ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  Furries apparently do not understand why we dislike fursonas.

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  • besselj@lemmy.ca ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    I’m much more accepting of fursonas than plagairism machines that can’t be trusted to give accurate information.

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  • CarbonIceDragon@pawb.social ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    We don’t exactly force other people to use one, and it doesn’t hurt anyone for us to, so why should we care?

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  • Valmond@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    Who cares about fursonas??

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    • deegeese@sopuli.xyz ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      It’s gross, like when someone puts big titty anime girls on a tech blog, it’s off putting to anyone who doesn’t share the fetish.

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  • Catoblepas@lemmy.blahaj.zone ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    What is this, 2003? Furries run the internet.

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    • besselj@lemmy.ca ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      Whole IT teams would crumble without furries

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  • noxypaws@pawb.social ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    Image

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  • Snowwomen@discuss.tchncs.de ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    Fursonas are pure narcissism. Imagine if non-furries acted like furries: you open someone’s social media and if every pic they upload is commissioned artwork of their (human) selves. You walk into their home and the walls are covered in self-portraits. You chat with them and they reply with ‘stickers’ of pictures of themselves doing gestures or facial expressions. Pure narcissism.

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    • melmi@lemmy.blahaj.zone ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      Ever heard of Bitmoji? Or Apple’s Genmoji thing? People do create stickers of themselves doing gestures or facial expressions, it’s fairly popular… And most of Instagram is people posting thirst traps and selfies. Not sure why you’re singling out furries here…

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    • match@pawb.social ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      Instagram?

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    • domdanial@reddthat.com ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      This is also selection bias, the furries that dont upload their art every day and make it their profile pic aren’t seen, only the ones that do.

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    • RandomVideos@programming.dev ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      Have you seen youtuber merch?

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    • noxypaws@pawb.social ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      Image

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  • m532@lemmygrad.ml ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    I don’t even want to understand shitheads like you. Stay away.

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• Goretantath@lemm.ee ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  “Original Character plz do not steal” Sonic but purple with glasses

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• chicken@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  I don’t care if your language model is “local-only” and runs on the user’s device. If it can build a profile of the user (regardless of accuracy) through their smartphone usage, that can and will be used against people.

  I don’t know if I’m understanding this argument right, but the idea that integrating locally run AI is inherently privacy destroying in the same way as live service AI doesn’t make a lot of sense to me.

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  • lime@feddit.nu ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    think of apple’s on-device image scanner ai that flagged people as perverts after they had taken photos of sand dunes.

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  • Umbrias@beehaw.org ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    building and centralizing pii is indeed a privacy point of failure. what’s not to understand?

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    • chicken@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      The use of local AI does not imply doing that, especially not the centralizing part.

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  • knightly@pawb.social ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    Microsoft Recall

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• Sendpicsofsandwiches@sh.itjust.works ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  Took me a minute to understand everything that was going on with the open ai logo in the thumbnail…

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  • 9point6@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    Potentially related: velvetshark.com/ai-company-logos-that-look-like-b…

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  • untorquer@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    Goatse vibes

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• Kolanaki@pawb.social ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  Pro-AI people want to do away with copyright entirely. Seen a lot of stupid shit recently, but seeing so-called anarchists on db0 claiming that copyright only helps big business takes the cake.

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  • schnurrito@discuss.tchncs.de ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    Movements to abolish or reduce the scope of copyright existed long before the current “AI” hype. Keywords around it are: free culture, the Pirate Bay, “copying is not theft”, etc.

    I’ve long been sympathetic to such and I don’t think “AI” changes anything about that.

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  • CarbonIceDragon@pawb.social ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    Wait, wouldn’t it make sense for an anarchist to opposite intellectual property law on the grounds that the only way you could possibly enforce it beyond those in one’s immediate community would be with a larger state and associated law enforcement apparatus, which an anarchist would be expected to be against the existence of?

    I’m not sure that has much to do with AI, and if anything, AI companies should somewhat like copyright since what they are ultimately selling is a form of software, which is harder to profit off without such law. They just want the concept to apply selectively so as not to impede them.

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    • Kolanaki@pawb.social ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      In an actual anarchistic society, we wouldn’t need copyright. But we live in capitalism. Stuff like copyright is needed until property itself no longer needs to exist. I’m all for changing the world toward anarchism, but I am not naive enough to believe for a second you can do it all at once and taking away the few things that at least attempt to make things fair is monumentally stupid.

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    • vala@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      Yeah

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  • wizardbeard@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    Unfortunately there is a bit of a damned if you do, damned if you don’t situation here. Put overly simply: If we start enforcing copyright in training AI models now, do you really believe that any companies who have already trained their models are really going to just toss them? I’m afraid that it’s going to just be regulatory capture where the existing big names just pull the ladder up behind them while still making money off of their stolen content fueled plagiarism machines.

    We’ll ignore that OpenAI isn’t actually profitable for the sake of the argument.

    That said, abolishing copyright is quite possibly the stupidest solution I’ve ever heard for this issue.

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    • Kolanaki@pawb.social ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      No, I don’t think they would. But I also do think that copyright has been bastardized from its original intent (mostly by Disney). Abolishing it entirely while not moving away from capitalism would be bad. Going back to it only lasting for the lifetime of the creator, and not being able to pass it down would be better.

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• possiblylinux127@lemmy.zip ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  That image is kind of off putting

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  • ICastFist@programming.dev ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    It’s on point, tho - velvetshark.com/ai-company-logos-that-look-like-b…

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