Submitted 2 weeks ago by sabreW4K3@lazysoci.al to technology@beehaw.org
https://www.pocket-lint.com/apple-usb-c-transition-mess/
And people still buy Apple products?
Take any usb-c charger, plug it in and it will charge. We just covered 90% of use cases.
Beyond that:
old phone: slow data transfer.
new phone: faster data transfer but still slower then computer.
So very confusing.
People discuss this as if they connected their phones to their computers more than once in the past 5 years.
Lemmy users can’t fathom that average users aren’t really bothered by it.
Ppl dont back up to local hd?
They let iCloud do the thing. Their computers don’t have that much storage.
I use ghost commander to backup to the NAS. No wires.
Wired screen mirroring would be a nice use case. E.g. just plug the iphone in a USB dock and watch a movie or join a meeting.
This works already on Pro and non pro models.
There is at least 1 use case for it: some of the newer iPhones can shoot raw format video. Apple calls this ProRes. It is also possible to take those videos as large as 4K. This comes out to about 6GB per minute of video taken.
Imagine someone like a YouTuber decided to take a couple of 20-30 minute clips. Yeah, I wouldn’t want to wait for wireless transfer on that. Especially not if that is a regular thing someone does.
If you make money on YouTube you can afford iPhone Pro probably. You probably already have one for shooting quality video.
Yeah. I did it exactly once, on vacation, while I didn’t have internet connection/didn’t want to waste the rest of my data, and wanted to import photos to my MacBook to edit them. It was fast enough on the Lightning connector.
This is a complete non-issue especially since faster hardware would probably be more expensive. Apple has enough actual issues that are more important such as repairs, RAM pricing, sideloading, …
Only Pro models support reasonable speeds for USB-C, up to 10Gbps. Regular iPhones are capped at USB 2.0 rates, up to 480Mbps, which is no faster than Lightning. With an iPhone 16 Pro, a 1GB file transfer can take 8 seconds – with a vanilla iPhone 16, you’re going to be waiting over 16 minutes.
10Gbps is about 20x more than 480Mbs but 8secs times 20 is 160secs which is a lot less than 16minutes so what is going on with this calculation?
With an iPhone 16 Pro, a 1GB file transfer can take 8 seconds
1GB / 10Gbps = 1GB / 1.25GBps = 0.8secs
with a vanilla iPhone 16, you’re going to be waiting over 16 minutes.
1GB / 480Mbps = 1GB / 0.48Gbps = 1GB / 0.06GBps = 16.67secs
Wow what a great article, well done.
Only off by a few orders of 10^x.
Typical shit journalism can’t be bothered to look at the units on their calculator.
I usually don’t like to dogpile onto authors but I went to look at their article history (at least at this outlet) and they look to be almost Invariably Click-bait and or AI Trash.
Sounds like the writer confused Mbps with MB/s or something.
But even then it’s kinda weird.
Thanks for showing the math
99 % of smartphone users don’t care about USB-C transfer speeds because they only use the port for charging. Maybe a fraction of these users uses wired CarPlay, which works the same with USB 2.0 speeds. Maybe some users use a USB-C to headphone jack adapter which works the same as well.
There’s a tiny fraction of users that’ll ever notice the speed difference (because they use the port for actual data transfer) but they won’t find reading a spec sheet confusing.
Worth noting however that Apple have already made file transfer from iphones to anything outside their ecosystem a pain:
iphone to usb on a mac is a nightmare. Can’t use the photos app, so you gotta use image capture which is laggy as hell and you either can “select all” or else you have to scroll through and select manually if you just want to transfer the latest photos.
For iphone to linux, granted, whoever’s using linux will likely be more familiar with the command line, but libimobiledevice and ifuse are anything but intuitive for the non-tech-savvy.
As for windows, Apple still wants you to use the apple-approved way but iirc I have, inconsistently, been able to get into the DCIM folder.
But even then once you do get into DCIM, the internal folder structure is absurd. Albums are just an illusion, all you get is a bunch of “###APPLE” folders with around 1000 photos each, and to top it off you also gotta deal with the heic format. And if you wanted to access anything that isn’t photos or videos, good luck. On linux I’ve more albums than DCIM have showed up but they mostly just seemed to contain metadata files.
Slower transfer speeds is just the cherry on top.
iphone to external drive on a mac is a nightmare.
Yes, it should be better. But you know how you mass-produce a product at a competitive price (though premium) and sell a shitload of them? By optimizing for the average user. They should be awesome in every area. But when you choose what you focus on, it’s not the tiny number of users with niche needs. This is similar to arguing that they should have higher than 10Gbps transfer speeds. It’s not useful for enough people to justify the cost. And software is a cost, just as is hardware. Source: worked in software.
Adding to the phrase “might be…” is almost like trying to give them the benefit of the doubt while the have a bloody knife in their hands actively stabbing someone else. This in 1000% on purpose.
presumably a liability thing, don’t want to be nuked for slander
Libel if it’s in print, slander if you say it in person
iPhones and iPads may be trash but macOS is still certified UNIX and the Apple silicon M1-M4 sre honestly game changers in PC CPU design.
I would never buy an iPhone or an iPad.
I would definitely, on the other hand, pay some good money for a high end mac. I just simply don’t have that kind of money to throw around. But if I did, I would.
Hardware wise I really like the macbooks, but MacOS is certified trash. So many traps and hooks if you want to leave the golden path Apple has laid out for you
Ey, it’s not that bad. I’ve been using it for over a decade, never made an Apple account (so not app store apps) and I never use any of the built-in apps (except for super basic stuff like the calculator or preview).
Still beats windows.
Agreed
And people still buy Apple products?
Of course they do. They blame the EU for forcing Apple to go with Usb c, because Apple had no time to adapt to it
Oh no, Apple had no time to create five milions dongles, each for one specific use case, each of which cost $50 apiece. A tragedy.
If this is on purpose, absolutely based
B0rax@feddit.org 2 weeks ago
Pro models have USB 3 or 4 Non pro iOS devices have USB2
Not confusing… but I guess this is enough for an article