Ninja sword owners will be paid to surrender weapons before ban

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• shani66@ani.social ⁨4⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

  Man, the uk is a silly place

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  • unexposedhazard@discuss.tchncs.de ⁨4⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

    Yeah, i mean if someone really wants to decapitate someone they can just go to the next best hardware store and get a chainsaw. This is so pointless.

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    • Obi@sopuli.xyz ⁨4⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

      Playing devil’s advocate, chainsaws are used for cutting trees and other tasks, they are not inherently a weapon unlike a sword (these are similar arguments to the ones used about gun control). I do find it silly to ban weeb swords, but mostly because I don’t think they’re ever really used for crimes? Or did I miss some info about a wave of ninja murders in the UK?

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    • tal@lemmy.today ⁨3⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

      Yeah, i mean if someone really wants to decapitate someone they can just go to the next best hardware store and get a chainsaw.

      archive.is/52YjV#selection-515.0-533.242

      Butter knife ‘an offensive weapon’

      A butter knife can be an offensive weapon, the High Court ruled yesterday.

      The decision came in the rejection of an appeal by Charlie Brooker, of Welling, Kent, who had been convicted under the Criminal Justice Act of carrying a bladed instrument.

      Mark Hardie, appearing for Brooker, argued that the knife had no handle, sharp edges or points and therefore could not fall foul of a law intended to protect people from dangerous weapons.

      But Lord Justice Laws, sitting with Mr Justice David Steel, disagreed. He said: “I would accept that a sharp or pointed blade was the paradigm case - however the words of the statute are unqualified and refer to any article that has a blade.”

      I will bet you that Parliament would be willing to impose a ban on possession of a chainsaw without just cause.

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  • MurrayL@lemmy.world ⁨4⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

    Why? Is there a legitimate reason for anyone to own or be able to easily purchase a ninja sword?

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    • Zachariah@lemmy.world ⁨4⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

      Why would you need a reason—legitimate or otherwise—to justify owning a sword?

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    • Swedneck@discuss.tchncs.de ⁨4⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

      yeah, decoration/recreation (or do you want to ban the bow and arrow too? maybe ban boxing gloves?)/historical preservation

      banning swords is absurd, if anything you want miscreants to use swords because they’re fucking massive and obvious, you can’t conceal a katana.

      meanwhile if someone wants to kill and not make that fact visible, they can just… keep a screwdriver in their pocket and stab someone, and you’re never going to ban screwdrivers.

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• orvorn@slrpnk.net ⁨4⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

  Are they actually called Ninja Swords in the legislation because if so, that’s hilarious.

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  • Darrell_Winfield@lemmy.world ⁨4⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

    Yes, they are literally called Ninja swords in the legislation.

    Yes, it is hilarious.

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    • Kolanaki@pawb.social ⁨4⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

      “This is a samurai sword, I’ll have you know. 😤”

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• steeznson@lemmy.world ⁨4⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

  Last amnesty a company handed in 1.5 million machetes and claimed the compensation for them despite importing the weapons themselves in the weeks before the ban. Pure profiteering.

  I hope the police have learned something but somehow doubt they have.

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  • Liz@midwest.social ⁨3⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

    I hope they haven’t.

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• NigelFrobisher@aussie.zone ⁨4⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

  Ninja swords are not actually a real thing, so what exactly is this banning?

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  • Evotech@lemmy.world ⁨4⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

    2.4. The legal definition that we tested as part of this consultation was as follows:

    A fixed bladed article with a blade between 14-24 inches (the length of the blade being the straight-line distance from the top of the handle to the tip of the blade) with:

    (i) A single straight cutting edge; and;

    (ii) A tanto style point - by tanto style point, we mean a point which is created by the cutting-edge changing direction in a short (relative to the overall length of the blade) straight line, with an angle (between the primary long cutting edge and secondary short cutting edge at the tip) greater than 90 degrees and continuing up to form a point of less than 90 degree, where the secondary short cutting edge meets the spine. The secondary short cutting edge should not deviate in length more than 5% more or less than the width of the blade immediately after the hilt; or

    (iii) A reversed tanto style point – by reverse tanto style point, we mean a point which is created by the cutting-edge changing direction in a short (relative to the overall length of the blade) straight line, with an angle (between the primary long cutting edge and secondary short cutting edge at the tip) less than 90 degrees and continuing up to form a point of greater than 90 degree, where the secondary short cutting edge meets the spine. The secondary short cutting edge should not deviate in length more than 5% more or less than the width of the blade immediately after the hilt.

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    • teft@lemmy.world ⁨4⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

      Wait, does this mean i can continue to carry my broadsword?

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    • Goretantath@lemm.ee ⁨3⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

      So what about blades 13 inches or 25 inches in length?

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• ladel@feddit.uk ⁨4⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

  Why are they banning knives and swords category by category (e.g., zombie knives, ninja swords) instead of a broader ban?

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  • Evotech@lemmy.world ⁨4⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

    To just piss off a small group at a time

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  • ForgotAboutDre@lemmy.world ⁨4⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

    They are responding to crimes being committed. This helps, and minimises the scope of the law. But, it doesn’t solve root cause.

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  • Zip2@feddit.uk ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

    Because you don’t want to take the risk in case Excalibur is still out there somewhere.

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  • withabeard@feddit.uk ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

    Performance art.

    Anything in the UK carried for the intent to harm another person is a weapon. I do lots of low impact woodland/forest work. Axes, saws etc. in my bag. If I carried them to a Birmingham park to murder someone they would be weapons and not allowed. If I carry them into a woodland I have a contract to manage, they are tools and allowed.

    These extra rules/laws don’t change the above. The swords could still have been outlawed as weapons by the legal system.

    But… doing this means the perl clutches can sleep easy knowing “something is being done”

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• NigelFrobisher@aussie.zone ⁨3⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

  It just occurred to me maybe the headline is about sword-owners who are ninjas, which totally changes the meaning.

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• RizzoTheSmall@lemm.ee ⁨4⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

  For the first time in my life I am truly incentivised to go on a quest to steal a sword.

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  • cyrano@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨4⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

    Image

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    • MummifiedClient5000@feddit.dk ⁨4⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

      I’m sure there a strange woman lying in a pond somewhere that can be of assistance.

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• ladfrombrad@lemdro.id ⁨4⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

  So does mean samurai swords too, those decorative ones I have on a three tier mount like these?

  Googled what a tanto end is and I’m unsure if it applies to them. Help?

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  • tired_n_bored@lemmy.world ⁨4⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

    No, you don’t have anything wink wink

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    • ladfrombrad@lemdro.id ⁨4⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

      …closes curtains permanently…

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  • voracitude@lemmy.world ⁨4⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

    Pretty sure they mean this upswept point at the end: Image

    Which I’m also pretty sure means the ones you have are targeted by this law and it’s a good idea to surrender them.

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  • FarceOfWill@infosec.pub ⁨3⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

    As a curved blade I think they’re all already banned, so this law does nothing to you

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  • stray@pawb.social ⁨3⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

    If they’re blunt or made before 1954, you’re good.

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• tal@lemmy.today ⁨3⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

  archive.ph/77tll

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