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probably my biggest gripe with Lemmy right now. Feels like I'm just stuck in a loop.

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Submitted ⁨⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago⁩ by ⁨Polar@lemmy.ca⁩ to ⁨mildlyinfuriating@lemmy.world⁩

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  • jeena@jemmy.jeena.net ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    If people would use the lemmy cross posting functionality it would only show up once.

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    • Blaze@sopuli.xyz ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      Indeed, unfortunately most of the mobile apps don’t implement that feature

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      • Coelacanth@feddit.nu ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

        I think ljdawson is working on it for Sync. I assume that’s why he held off on implementing posting.

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      • 4am@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

        I didn’t even realize this was a thing already. The apps need to add this ASAP, seems like a pretty vital part of making the experience smooth.

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    • Reborn2966@feddit.it ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      if people do cross posts, will i see the post only once?

      will lemmy detect that i can see the original + 3 crossposts and show me only the original?

      this is more like a feature request, i don’t think we are there yet.

      we could also aggregate and sync comments across cross postings, so that the post is really just one, but posted in more than one community.

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      • jeena@jemmy.jeena.net ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

        Yes, this is how it works in lemmy-ui. In this following example someone posted to !technology@beehaw.org and I pressed the cross-post button and cross-posted it to !firefox@lemmy.ml:

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        And if you cross post it to more then one there will be just a list of them.

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      • Blaze@sopuli.xyz ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

        if people do cross posts, will i see the post only once?

        will lemmy detect that i can see the original + 3 crossposts and show me only the original?

        On the website, it does

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    • nostalgicgamerz@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      Man Memmy needs that ASAP…

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    • twistedtxb@lemmy.ca ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      Oh wow I didn’t know such thing existed on Lemmy

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  • Chickenstalker@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    Do you wake up on the same snowy day, every day, with Sonny and Cher’s “I got you babe” playing on the clock radio?

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    • ptz@dubvee.org ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      For me, it’s a retro hotel room and “It’s Only Just Begun” by The Carpenters.

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  • Chozo@kbin.social ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    I suggested an idea to fix this, that I called "thread entanglement". I had suggested it for Kbin specifically, before, but honestly the base Lemmy software could use something like this. I'd love to see some sort of smart merging of duplicate threads like this be possible.

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    • Coelacanth@feddit.nu ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      Adding this as an issue on the Lemmy GitHub would be a great idea.

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  • Psaldorn@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    If the title text is the same it should just squash them, show you all the options on further inspection.

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    • wjrii@kbin.social ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      This is my preferred option. Requires no underlying change to ActivityPub or federation, just makes the end user experience more pleasant until/unless communities gain more distinct personalities that would result in fewer reposts.

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    • realitista@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      Better yet, it should semi-force you to post as a crosspost which would remove the duplicate from end user feeds. Especially if there’s already a post on another community with a matching content link.

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  • CheezyWeezle@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    My biggest gripe right now is how often everything goes down. About 6 times out of 10 when I go to load anything on lemmy it is down, confirmed on lemmy-world.statuspage.io

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    • jao@lemy.lol ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      lemmy.world got too big IMO. So I ended up switching to a different instance. If all the users were to evenly distribute themselves across many instances, and not just have everyone on like 1-3 different instances, I think that the issues with unavailability, lag, and whatnot would be much less.

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    • Laticauda@lemmy.ca ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      I had the most issues on my lemmy.world account. I’ve had less issues on my lemmy.ca account, maybe try making an account on a different instance? World has been getting attacked a lot lately.

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    • Cr4yfish@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      I’m actually trying to solve this issue on my own Lemmy app. It automatically switches instances when the requested one is down. Works only in the Feed right now and, of course, accounts are still instance-bound - but I will fix that soon.

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    • popemichael@lemmy.sdf.org ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      After I went to my local instance of lemmy, sdf.org, I have literally zero issue

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    • sicjoke@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      considering hopping onto a different instance because of this. Lemmy.world in particular always seems to be experiencing issues.

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      • Caoldence222@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

        lemmon.zerobytes.monster/index

        it’s not just you, the stats bear it out. LW has the worst uptime of any major instance. 92% so far this month according to their own monitoring and worse on bad days. They see a lot of load and have not scaled up enough to resolve it, nor have they restricted user signups at all to spread out new users across the lemmyverse. Seems like a very growth oriented mindset, which I don’t love to see spreading to the fediverse.

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      • BrisaLuna@sh.itjust.works ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

        I am most comfortable with lemmy.world because of their old reddit formatting. It made the transition easy. Call it lazy or low brain, but maybe if other instances will also do the old format, they might get more users shifting to their instances too?

        Still trying to learn here, but so far I find myself jumping back to old.lemmy.world simple because of familiarity.

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      • dan@upvote.au ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

        I personally wouldn’t use one the larger instances, as they’re usually going to have the most issues (more complex deployments, longer maintenance downtimes, etc)

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  • 7Sea_Sailor@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    Keep in mind you can always block communities you’re not interested in to prevent them from appearing in any feed. I’ve already blocked plenty of communities to make the “All” post list digestable.

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    • amio@kbin.social ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      There are so many though. I'm trying to prune politics from my feed but people keep making new goddamn magazines and then crossposting everything everywhere anyway.

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    • Delphia@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      You can also block users, which is super helpful with people that go on crossposting rampages.

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    • Blaze@sopuli.xyz ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      Could you please share the blocked part of the JSON you get with github.com/CMahaff/lasim ?

      That could probably help new joiners.

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      • 7Sea_Sailor@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

        Why would I? The list of communities which one wants to block is very personal / individual. My preferences what I don’t want to engage with is purely mine and cannot be transferred to all other users. So any user should make their own decisions what communities they want to block, instead of blindly copying someone elses and potentially missing out on content they would enjoy.

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  • Thisisforfun@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    It’s just like browsing r/all on reddit. We did it, Lemmy!

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  • InternetTubes@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    My biggest gripe is getting a reply, clicking to see the context of the reply, and getting the same reply thrown back at me with no context.

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    • Polar@lemmy.ca ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      Ya I’m having that issue too. I posted about it here: lemmy.ca/comment/1871582

      Sync for Lemmy seems to be the only app that actually shows me context right now.

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  • Candelestine@lemmy.ca ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    I agree, the cross-posting gets annoying. Why do people insist that everyone who is interested in a certain topic needs to participate in their post, so it has to go on every community?

    People did not do that on reddit. They just made one post and waited for interaction.

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    • fiah@discuss.tchncs.de ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      there were tons of cross posts on reddit, it’s just that they usually weren’t visible on the front page as such

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      • Potatos_are_not_friends@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

        The cross posts on reddit were terrible.

        Same fucking post on awww, upliftingnews, mildlyinteresting, bustypetite, etc

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    • Lith@lemmy.sdf.org ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      People did this constantly on Reddit, I don’t know what you’re talking about.

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  • Blaze@sopuli.xyz ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    I’m all in favor of several communities on the same topic as long as they offer different content

    Having the same link or picture shared across several communities is just detrimental to the user experience.

    Also, to avoid this, maybe we should have core communities for a specific topic (for instance unions), and then they can fork if there is a need (e.g. what happened with !android@lemmy.world and !android@lemdro.id

    OP, as of now, I would just suggest to block communities that are too similar.

    I only have one tech community as they seemed to all be the same anyway, I’ll reassess in a few weeks if I need to select the other one.

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    • hitmyspot@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      The problem with blocking a community is if you block the one that eventually takes off, you miss out. I am just accepting it for now and assume it will sort itself out.

      Another option would be to upvote one and downvote the other, to help speed the process up.

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      • Blaze@sopuli.xyz ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

        Your last point might be interesting, but imagine if someone else is doing the opposite, you guys would be evening out ha ha

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    • kresten@feddit.dk ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      I just follow them all, and get all the content. Big W

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  • coconutxyz@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    On one hand yes annoying but on the other I’m grateful for their effort in generating post

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  • ryannathans@lemmy.fmhy.net ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    Don’t sort by new? Top on a short time frame is probably a better choice

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    • douglasg14b@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      I sort by active and this is how my feed looks. Except I see the duplicates every 5-6 posts. But I see the same ~10 posts for maybe 100+ with a few non-duplicates sprinkled in. Same with sorting by hot.

      It’s pretty bad

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      • Steak@lemmy.ca ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

        Sort by top 6 hours

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    • Polar@lemmy.ca ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      This is top 6 hours.

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    • Lazylazycat@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      I get the same thing with active or hot.

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    • Kolanaki@yiffit.net ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      Sorting by new or new comments does not usually result in seeing the same post across multiple instances all bunched together like this.

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      • ryannathans@lemmy.fmhy.net ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

        There is sorting by new posts and there is sorting by new comments. By comments is a lot more random/mixed

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  • havokdj@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    My biggest gripe is that 3/4th of what I write on here ends in an angry argument, usually somehow about politics (in an area of politics I don’t even GAF about!)

    Seriously considering just hopping to another instance.

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    • heavy@sh.itjust.works ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      Listen, I see from what you said, what your worldview and values are, and I’m here to remind you that they’re wrong.

      /s

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    • Dick_Justice@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      Let me guess, you’re one of those pro-skub people?

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      • havokdj@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

        No clue what that means so probably not

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    • shottymcb@lemm.ee ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago
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      • Historical_General@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

        The lemmydotworld admins are preemptively defederating from far left hexbear. Defederation is supposed to be the last resort. The ironic thing is, only a few weeks ago we had redditors calling Lemmy devs tankies and telling people not to come here lol. And now we’re losing potential users because of paranoia from lemmydotworld admins.

        Clowns everywhere.

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  • dan@upvote.au ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    TIL there’s people that still use Yahoo News.

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    • mlc894@lemm.ee ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      Hey, free news content sans paywall and an app that does only what it says on the tin. What’s not to like?

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      • CanadaPlus@lemmy.sdf.org ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

        Huh, I just looked. I swear it was more cancerous before.

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  • DasRubberDuck@feddit.de ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    Seems like we could use federation on the community level

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  • popemichael@lemmy.sdf.org ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    Wef err Voyager has a thing that will block things that you have already looked at.

    That might help

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  • Yoz@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    Give it some time my dude. Devs are working to fix these issues. Eventually we will get there

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  • ronin@lemmy.cafe ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    Yeah, missing active various support communities.

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  • suckmyspez@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    I just block the accounts that do this. Make it much nicer to browse 👌

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  • kresten@feddit.dk ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    @cyu@sh.itjust.works stop cross-posting to the same communities, there’s no karma!

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  • csm10495@sh.itjust.works ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    This bugs me too. There are various GitHub issues about grouping communities. As far as I know, no one has gotten to 'em yet.

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  • pomodoro_longbreak@sh.itjust.works ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    I appreciate the poster sharing the article to multiple communities/instances, but would be nice if the Lemmy front-end could batch these (maybe will a link like “appears in a, b, c …”) if the user + link + title all hashed out to the same thing.

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  • LambLeeg@lemm.ee ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    Yeah, I made a filter for the canvas and a bunch of other things. That’s hella annoying. Feels exactly as Reddit, but now I can filter it

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  • sixtynine@lemmynsfw.com ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    I only subscribe to the usually most popular community in a subject I’m interested in for this reason

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  • Etterra@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    Well maybe if you’d block that furry shit you could at least feel better about it.

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  • Laticauda@lemmy.ca ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    Top 6 hours or top 12 hours seems to have a better range of options. Try those.

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  • botorfj@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    beeper spotted

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  • Amilo159@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    Agreed, this issue really kills the fun of browsing.

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  • woelkchen@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    There was talk about the ability to link communities in the future, so that dupes show up as merged. No idea what happened of that.

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