Not sure if he has the power to do that, or if he could do it but not make it permanent. But if he can, he really should…
Could Joe Biden use his remaining time as president of the US to do away with presidential pardons?
Submitted 1 week ago by 58008@lemmy.world to [deleted]
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Illuminostro@lemmy.world 1 week ago
[deleted]tyrant@lemmy.world 1 week ago
Heaven forbid the Democratic party do something outside the box or unsavory.
eugenevdebs@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 week ago
He’s a sitting duck, nothing bad will happen if he just goes “Alright, I’m king for the next 3 months. Here’s some more polices things for Americans, free gun training and a copy of the Improvised Munitions book included.”
He could just… legalize pot, give Americans money, and have Trump taken care of. “but muh rule of law!!! what president would that set for the next dude who’s going to do it anyways?”
deadbeef79000@lemmy.nz 1 week ago
There’s lots of good explanations of what the US Constitution allows… but they don’t actually matter!
No matter which branch of government (executive, judicial, or legislature) have the power to “do away with pardons” the same has the power to bring them back.
In parliamentary systems this is called the “supremacy of parliament”.
So even if Biden could issue an executive order to stop pardons then Trump can just executive order them back.
workerONE@lemmy.world 1 week ago
I heard that Biden can assassinate Trump and he might not need to pardon himself.
shani66@ani.social 1 week ago
Unironically that might be the best possible thing he could do.
Huckledebuck@sh.itjust.works 1 week ago
Would there be a be election, or would he have to take our Jack Dick Vance, too?
Burn_The_Right@lemmy.world 1 week ago
🤣😂Jack Dick Vance😄🤣
Viking_Hippie@lemmy.world 1 week ago
There’s a lot of radical things Biden could do to better shelter the people of the US and indeed the world from the coming storm but, being Joe Biden, he’s going to do none of them.
Asafum@feddit.nl 1 week ago
I wouldn’t expect anything from anyone at this point. I expect essentially radio silence until Trump takes over.
yessikg@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 week ago
I would rather he do some presidential actions that are now allowed because of the corrupt supreme court
_bcron_@lemmy.world 1 week ago
It’s baked into the US Constitution and the framers intentionally made it difficult to ratify amendments to prevent it from being changed frequently on whims (the Constitution should ideally be able to weather any change in the breeze). He could but he’d need 2/3rds of both House and Senate to vote in favor in order to proceed, so he’d need those to be in session to vote, and then ratification is even messier, I think 2/3 or 3/4 of state legislatures need to vote in favor of ratification. Bunch of hurdles that require not only getting all these groups in a room, but also to have well over a majority vote in favor
lagomorphlecture@lemm.ee 1 week ago
Joe Biden can do whatever he wants and it doesn’t matter because then Trump will do whatever he wants. He can do away with pardons and then Trump can decree that they exist again. There’s nothing left to stop him. Buckle up.
C126@sh.itjust.works 1 week ago
This is why executive orders are dumb.
LifeInMultipleChoice@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 week ago
He can do whatever he wants, the supreme Court is dumb enough to say so, he can post troops at the front of their swear in and mow down both of them before they get sworn in. If he does nothing to stop it after that. " He would get impeached" and be out of a job… but cannot get penalties against him for doing so. The supreme Court is the most supreme dumbasses we have seen in our lives. I thought my parents were stupid. They are making feathers look smart. Will Biden, no, will trump, yes. We know better
recursive_recursion@lemmy.ca 1 week ago
not sure but the first thing I’d recommend changing is the first past the post voting system
BlameThePeacock@lemmy.ca 1 week ago
The president doesn’t control that. The federal government doesn’t even control that.
That’s a state by state situation.
NaibofTabr@infosec.pub 1 week ago
Correct:
The Times, Places and Manner of holding Elections for Senators and Representatives, shall be prescribed in each State by the Legislature thereof; but the Congress may at any time by Law make or alter such Regulations, except as to the Places of chusing Senators.
US Constitution, Article 1, Section 4
Technically there’s no requirement that any of the citizens of a state be allowed to vote in their state’s elections.
Cort@lemmy.world 1 week ago
Alaska and Maine already have ranked choice iirc
Mishmash2000@lemmy.nz 1 week ago
It would be irrelivant. Trump will change anything and everything to suit his needs. You can change whatever you want and he’ll just change it back on day one. You know, that one day he made very clear that he was going to be a dictator. That’s the one day set aside to change every single thing he needs to. After that, nothing else matters.
crawancon@lemm.ee 1 week ago
even if we could he won’t. or some political problem prevents it. see the college debt relief debacle or Manchin.
stinerman@midwest.social 1 week ago
The President can pardon anyone he wants for any federal crime as long as it’s backward looking. He can’t pardon someone for something that will happen in the future.
The President does not have the power to abolish pardons.
baggachipz@sh.itjust.works 1 week ago
He will.
bear@lemmynsfw.com 1 week ago
No. The president of the United States is authorized by the U.S. Constitution to grant a pardon for a federal crime.
JimmyBigSausage@lemm.ee 1 week ago
Maybe he could just open up a can of whoop-ass?
radiohead37@lemmynsfw.com 1 week ago
He’ll likely pardon Hunter.
adarza@lemmy.ca 1 week ago
pardon is a power granted by the constitution.
states are, for the most part, in control of their own election process.
biden can’t do a thing about either. and anything he does on his own, such as via executive order, will just be undone on dictator day.