How long would it take to create a Pyramid

Submitted ⁨⁨5⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago⁩ by ⁨jonathanvmv8f@lemm.ee⁩ to ⁨[deleted]⁩

Just a shower thought. Seeing how these structures took decades to build in their times, and that too entirely with manual labour, I was wondering how long these architectural marvels would take to be built in this post modern era with the help of our technological advancements.

Imagine the world has dedicated their focus and the entirety of its resources on building just one Pyramid as quickly as possible out of the same materials and in the same location as the original ones. The medium of construction has no constraints but the end result must be indistinguishable, structure and composition wise.

I would love to hear how the process would take place in addition.

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Blue_Morpho@lemmy.world ⁨5⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
The Manhattan project took 2.5 years. It involved mining 18.8 million pounds of uranium. 10 Cyclotron factories of 20 cyclotrons for 22,000 workers was built in 6 months to separate the uranium.

So it’s really down to resources. If it was a Manhattan Project level of resources thrown at building a Pyramid, I’d wild guess 3 months.

It boils down to collecting all the building equipment from around the world and sending it to where you want to build the pyramid.

50,000 people cutting stone while 50,000 heavy construction equipment operators move the stones would take 2 months.

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- peopleproblems@lemmy.world ⁨5⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
  If anyone wants to understand the pain of fissile uranium production, play factorio. Gives you a little tiny fraction of what it’s like to produce enough fuel for a powerplant. You need a lot more for a bomb.
  
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  - corsicanguppy@lemmy.ca ⁨5⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
    At my house we agreed I’d never play factorio. Not even once.
    
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  - BlameThePeacock@lemmy.ca ⁨5⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
    I can’t wait for the new expansion. It looks fucking amazing.
    
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PythagreousTitties@lemm.ee ⁨5⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
The Louvre Pyramid took five years to complete. Designed in '84 and completed in 1989.

The Walter Pyramid took two years to complete. It’s 18 stories tall, and can seat 6,000 people. Each side of the perimeter of Walter Pyramid measures 345 feet (105 m), making it a mathematically true pyramid. It is one of only four true pyramid-style buildings in the United States, the others being the Summum Pyramid in Salt Lake City, Utah, Luxor Las Vegas in Las Vegas, Nevada, and the Memphis Pyramid in Memphis, Tennessee.

Pyramids are pretty simple. What you really want are today’s architectural wonders.

The Petronas Twin Towers are a pair of 88-storey skyscrapers standing at 451.9 m (1,483 ft) in Kuala Lumpur, Malaysia’s capital. They are the world’s tallest twin towers and were the tallest pair of buildings in the world after their construction in 2004. Both buildings are linked by a 2-story skybridge at their 41st and 42nd floors and the bridge is 170 m (558 ft) tall, which makes it the world’s highest 2-story sky bridge.

The Washington Monument is the world’s tallest stone structure, and the world’s tallest obelisk. It’s made of granite, bluestone gneis, and marble. It had a staggered construction, and took around 10 years to complete.

The Sydney Opera House took fourteen years to complete. Considered to be a modern masterpiece, it was the result of a competition and was opened by Queen Elizabeth II. It has also been featured in Star Trek as a hat.

The Hoover Dam is a concrete arch-gravity dam in the Black Canyon of the Colorado River, on the border between the U.S. states of Nevada and Arizona. Constructed between 1931 and 1936, during the Great Depression, it was dedicated on September 30, 1935, by President Franklin D. Roosevelt. Its construction was the result of a massive effort involving thousands of workers, and cost over 100 lives.

And so on and so forth

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- clay_pidgin@sh.itjust.works ⁨5⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
  Here’s a great podcast episode about the design competition and fraught construction of the Sydney Opera House. pushkin.fm/…/a-chorus-of-contempt-at-the-sydney-o…
  
  It has also been featured in Star Trek as a hat.
  
  My child intensifies
  
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  - PythagreousTitties@lemm.ee ⁨5⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
    Neat! I’ll check that out, thanks
    
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givesomefucks@lemmy.world ⁨5⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
How much effort are you putting in?

The pyramids were kind of like FDRs New Deal. When there wasn’t work to be done, the workers worked on the pyramids and still got paid.

If there was work to be done, they didn’t work on the pyramid.

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- KillingAndKindess@lemmy.blahaj.zone ⁨5⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
  How sure of this are we? Cause it has a feeling of being just a theory or a tiny thing viewed through a super capitalistic lens… on its face I mean.
  
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RampantParanoia2365@lemmy.world ⁨5⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
The Luxor casino in Vegas apparently took about 6 months between starting construction and opening.

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themeatbridge@lemmy.world ⁨5⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
To make something that looks exactly like a pyramid, I imagine the easiest thing to do would be to fabricate large stone blocks and stack them the same way the pyramids were built. Cranes could make short work of the stacking, and if you’re willing to spend more, you could make the blocks out of lighter materials like fiberglass and foam. Even with natural stone, you could have multiple cranes and multiple crews to be done in like a month. Fabrication and delivery would also depend on the availability of the materials, so that might take another six weeks if you’re willing to spend the money.

If it were a standard construction project, you might budget for two years to create the drawings, get permits, bid out the job to contractors, prep the site, build the dang thing, and get final inspections. How much it would cost would also depend on materials selected and where it was built. Labor rates, land value, material costs, all of that varies by location and even the seasons.

Budget, Quality, Speed. These are the three corners of the universal priority triangle. If you want it fast and good, it’s going to cost a lot of money. Fast and cheap will be low quality. Good and cheap will take a long time (maybe forever).

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Badeendje@lemmy.world ⁨5⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
Cheap - fast - good… Pick 2

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- MonkderDritte@feddit.de ⁨5⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
  Same goes for encrypting drives btw.
  
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HobbitFoot@thelemmy.club ⁨5⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
Design:

The main constraints are geotechnical in nature. You need to conduct borings of the site and the material. It is expected that construction will be faster, so you can’t rely on slowly increasing the load to build up strength. Hopefully, it is found that the soil can take the load. If not, the soil would likely be injected with grout.

Rock removal and finishing:

This should be a lot easier since you can use modern masonry tools for this. Cutting and finishing should be rather quick; I expect a somewhat roughened surface to help with friction between stones.

Rock movement:

I expect a lot of use of cranes. Once the rock gets dislodged, it will likely have eye-bolts installed into it to help move it around with a crane. From there, cranes well likely move it on to and off of all trucks. There may be barges as well if the trucking costs are too high. On the site, there will be a lot of temporary roads for trucks to drive on, making it easy to bring the stones up to the final crane.

I expect the project to take at least two years from securing funding, probably more like three. The design is easy. The main issues are mobilization, funding, and logistics.

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Successful_Try543@feddit.de ⁨5⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
25 years ago in Quarks & Co, a German TV science format, they analysed what it would take to build the Cheops pyramid in Cologne. It would take 10 month for the concrete foundation and 5 years for the lower two third of the pyramid. Use of modern technology makes it possible to place one stone every 20 seconds, which is triple the rate ancient egypt workers supposedly aceived. So I guess it would take 6-7 years in total.

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- KneeTitts@lemmy.world ⁨5⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
  
  Use of modern technology makes it possible to place one stone every 20 seconds, which is triple the rate ancient egypt workers supposedly aceived
  
  Um, maybe Im missing something… you think ancient Egyptians placed one stone every minute? So 60 stones per hour??
  
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  - Alimentar@lemm.ee ⁨5⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
    They actually don’t know, but mathematically in order for them to build it within the historical time constraints, it had to have been done one block per minute.
    
    Which some say is impossible with the technology they had, sparking conversation that there’s more to the history of the pyramids than we think.
    
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  - Successful_Try543@feddit.de ⁨5⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
    Yes, I just checked again, they claim to place one stone every 20 s which is supposedly three times faster than the ancient egyptians did.
    
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  - Maven@lemmy.zip ⁨5⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
    1 minute = 60 seconds
    
    60 / 3 = 20
    
    1/20s is 3 times the speed of 1/60s
    
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Boozilla@lemmy.world ⁨5⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
Skyscrapers typically take 2-5 years to build. I’m going to hazard a guess that a pyramid like the Great Pyramid of Giza would take more like 5-10 years.

There’s a lot of variables to this, especially the location and the source (quarry) and transportation of the high-quality limestone that you would need. You would also want to use some granite and other stone materials if you’re trying to match what the ancient Egyptians did. (If you’re allowed to use modern concrete and steel, it could change things dramatically.)

The Great Pyramid is about 147m tall and 230m wide along each side. Assuming it’s mostly solid stone, You would need roughly 2.5 million cubic meters of material.

Preparing and grading the site would go much faster with bulldozers and graders and the like, but is still a time-consuming process. Quarrying the limestone would also go much faster than the ancients because we have explosives, hydraulics, etc. But there’s still a lot of precision cutting and fitting to be done. Cranes would make placing the stones go faster but again, still time-consuming.

CAD software would also make the whole project faster and easier (and would further highlight how ingenious the ancient people were with this accomplishment). Experts already know a lot about the pyramids, but I bet if they built one they’d learn even more.

My wild guess is: if you marshaled enough resources and put a highly competent person in charge of it, you could get it done in 5 years.

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Thcdenton@lemmy.world ⁨5⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
3-4 weeks tops boss

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hungryphrog@lemmy.blahaj.zone ⁨5⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
Anyone wanna help me find out?

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- Potatos_are_not_friends@lemmy.world ⁨5⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
  Yeah what are your hours and how is the health insurance and benefits?
  
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  - InternetCitizen2@lemmy.world ⁨5⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
    Its reverse funded. You’ll be paying Ms. Potatoes (and like it)
    
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Skyrmir@lemmy.world ⁨5⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
It would be impossible to build today by any means. Not because of any technological problem. Physically it could be done rather quickly, as others have posited. The problem is that you could never combine the political and economic will to complete it.

It’s the same reason it would be easier to colonize Mars than to fix climate change. There’s a half dozen robots on Mars that will do whatever you tell them. On Earth, there’s 7 billion assholes who think they have a better idea of what to do.

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Brkdncr@lemmy.world ⁨5⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
Is slavery allowed?

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- pearsaltchocolatebar@discuss.online ⁨5⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
  Slavery wasn’t used on the original pyramids.
  
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  - sxan@midwest.social ⁨5⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
    Of course not. Aliens don’t use slavery.
    
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- YaDownWitCPP@lemmy.world ⁨5⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
  Fine, but only children or people of wrong religion.
  
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GingeyBook@lemm.ee ⁨5⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
Pretty sure Joe Rogan said it’s impossible to do today…

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- KneeTitts@lemmy.world ⁨5⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
  
  Pretty sure Joe Rogan said
  
  ya you lost me at Rogan
  
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  - GingeyBook@lemm.ee ⁨5⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
    Is a joke, but wasn’t sarcasm so didn’t include/s
    
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VulKendov@reddthat.com ⁨5⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
The Great American Pyramid was built in two years 1989-1991

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- tourist@lemmy.world ⁨5⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
  They really selling musical instruments out of there?
  
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  - VulKendov@reddthat.com ⁨5⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
    I think it’s mostly fishing and outdoor supplies. Maybe there’s some musical instruments there. Never been there myself.
    
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