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Submitted ⁨⁨11⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago⁩ by ⁨fossilesque@mander.xyz⁩ to ⁨science_memes@mander.xyz⁩

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  • katja@lemmy.blahaj.zone ⁨11⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    The funny thing is that the “extra strength” placebos likely have a better chance of working. The more elaborate and involved the placebo is, the greater the chance of it actually working even if you know it is a placebo. Our minds are weird. As always, I’m too lazy to look up the actual study so I don’t know if it was a quality study or not.

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    • agentshags@sh.itjust.works ⁨11⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      The important thing is that you believe there was a study ;p

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      • katja@lemmy.blahaj.zone ⁨11⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        Yeah, I haven’t read the study of course. Only read about it. Which makes the claim above even more dubious. But hey, this is the future, who has the time to fact check anymore?

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    • Aceticon@lemmy.world ⁨11⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      Somebody from Behavioural Economics has actually shown a nocebo effect for something with genuine positive health effects when people tought it was an ultra cheap version.

      The story of that is in one of the Freakonomics books.

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    • variants@possumpat.io ⁨11⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      But you also might get more nocebos where you get negative effects from the placebo

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      • blanketswithsmallpox@lemmy.world ⁨11⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        Trick yourself better you rube.

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    • melooone@feddit.de ⁨11⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      This reminded me of an episode of Mind Field, which shows significant improvent in cases of ADHD, Migraines, and a skin picking disorder in kids just through the placebo effect.

      They use elaborate set ups and suggestions like a turned off MRI machine, fake nurses and doctors in lab coats, etc. And the kids are actually told, that it’s their brain doing the healing, not the machine.

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    • Blackmist@feddit.uk ⁨11⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      I believe it’s red placebos that are better at helping with pain.

      The brain is a fucky old thing.

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      • Duranie@literature.cafe ⁨11⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        It’s been a while since I looked at this, but different color pills “work” better for different ailments. Also the size and numbers of pills effect results as well. Two pills are “stronger” than one, bigger pills over smaller as well.

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    • jlow@beehaw.org ⁨11⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      Yeah, I heard that the placebo effect for pain meds is stronger in the US (than in Europe?) because there’s more advertisment for it in the US (how they made sure this is causation and not correlation I have no idea, though …)

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  • smuuthbrane@sh.itjust.works ⁨11⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    I only use brand name placebos. Generic doesn’t work for me.

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    • Mycatiskai@lemmy.ca ⁨11⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      I find you have to use twice as much to have any effect.

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  • HawlSera@lemm.ee ⁨11⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    People wanna tell me there’s no such thing as magic in a world where The Placebo Effect exists. Bro’s got a low level healing spell that grows stronger the more he believes it works.

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    • MindTraveller@lemmy.ca ⁨11⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      Also money. It only works if you believe in it, yet it controls all of society

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    • pyre@lemmy.world ⁨11⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      they work even when you know they’re placebos. now that’s magic.

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  • lars@lemmy.sdf.org ⁨11⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    If it works. I do not care how.

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    • thatsTheCatch@lemmy.nz ⁨11⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      I agree. However, to me, something feels wrong about companies making money selling a product to people with the promise that they work when they don’t actually do anything in and of themselves. It’s false advertising plus taking money out of people’s pockets.

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      • Lev_Astov@lemmy.world ⁨11⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        IIRC, studies have also shown that the cost of the placebo had a direct correlation to the efficacy. Ah yes: www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4345649/

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      • el_abuelo@lemmy.ml ⁨11⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        It’s not stupid if it works

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  • lugal@lemmy.ml ⁨11⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    But be careful with the dose

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    • Aceticon@lemmy.world ⁨11⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      Take too much of a placebo and you might end up with a nocebo side-effect.

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    • SurpriZe@lemm.ee ⁨11⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      Just pretend you took an ephemeral pill. Placebos work like that too.

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  • ryan213@lemmy.ca ⁨11⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    I just go with whatever’s on sale.

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    • sik0fewl@lemmy.ca ⁨11⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      For me, it’s whatever is in the biggest bottle.

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      • ryan213@lemmy.ca ⁨11⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        Sometimes the shiniest, too!

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      • xx3rawr@sh.itjust.works ⁨11⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        What if the pharmacy has, like, a whole vat of them?

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  • AeonFelis@lemmy.world ⁨11⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    I only use homeopathic placebos.

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  • user1234@lemmynsfw.com ⁨11⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    Placebo is one of the most underrated bands.

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    • BrucePotality@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨11⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      Nani the fuck

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    • A_Chilean_Cyborg@feddit.cl ⁨11⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      Fuck, the spambots found lemmy.

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      • fossilesque@mander.xyz ⁨11⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        Haha, can’t look away for a few hours. >:(

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  • Marcbmann@lemmy.world ⁨11⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    Ah, Zicam. I’ll never understand how shit like that is allowed to make claims

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  • Sam_Bass@lemmy.world ⁨11⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    Its a multibillion dollar industry

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  • popcap200@lemmy.ml ⁨11⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    This is very true after learning about guaifenesin, phenylephrine, and Docusate Sodium.

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  • The_Che_Banana@beehaw.org ⁨11⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    Brand Named Extra Strength!

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  • TheDoctor@hexbear.net ⁨11⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    I’m getting fucked up on cough medicine tonight. I’ve got this homeopathic stuff that I hear is insane.

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  • Muscar@discuss.online ⁨11⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    Very relevant and pretty recent SciShow episode:

    yewtu.be/watch?v=ouUlQowZT5o

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