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Submitted ⁨⁨11⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago⁩ by ⁨fossilesque@mander.xyz⁩ to ⁨science_memes@mander.xyz⁩

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  • RenegadeTwister@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨11⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
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    • stufkes@lemmy.world ⁨11⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      Political Science is the study of political systems and behaviours employing the scientific method. It’s a sub field of social science and a very new one, at less than 150 years old Political philosophy is of course much older.

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      • Knock_Knock_Lemmy_In@lemmy.world ⁨11⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        employing the scientific method

        Really? They have control groups? Blind and A/B testing? Hypothesis that they set out to reject?

        I’m sure they have methods but are they scientific?

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      • KillingTimeItself@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨11⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        it should be a sub field of sociology instead of science.

        Sociology isn’t called social sciences, though arguably you could call it that.

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    • FilthyShrooms@lemmy.world ⁨11⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      Yea computer “science”? Bitch you mean programming?

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      • frezik@midwest.social ⁨11⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        Depends. A proper computer science course is basically math with machines. At the highest level, it may have zero programming at all.

        Software Engineering is, well, engineering (setting aside the whole debate on what makes a “real” engineer).

        It used to be that universities crammed both under “computer science”, and you had to look at the curriculum to figure out which one they were actually teaching. They tend to separate the two more clearly these days. Neither is really “science” in the strictest sense, but the term stuck now.

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      • yetAnotherUser@feddit.de ⁨11⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        That’s why informatics is by far the superior term. Computer science is such a boring terms anyways, you don’t call maths “number science”, biology "living beings science " or chemistry “atoms science” either.

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      • lobut@lemmy.ca ⁨11⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        My geophysicist friend laughed at me for a little long when I said “I’m a computer scientist”.

        I never took that degree/job position or whatever seriously anyway. I’ve always giggled at software engineering too. I just call myself a programmer.

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    • Donkter@lemmy.world ⁨11⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      Yeah, polisci has gotten as far as the “observation” part of science and kinda has to stop there for moral reasons.

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      • exocrinous@startrek.website ⁨11⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        The same is often true of psychology, but psychology is clearly a science.

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    • frezik@midwest.social ⁨11⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      What’s voodoo about political science?

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      • Frogodendron@beehaw.org ⁨11⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        “Real” scientists try to put a spin on it akin to “You can’t properly hypothesise, reason or make predictions about anything based on a sample size of ~200 countries that are totally outside of your control and are very different from each other”. Few more arguments get thrown into a pot.

        Doesn’t stop political scientists from mostly accurately describing things, so no harm is done here. The harm lies within pushing that opinion on general public, highlighting the that “proper” scientists don’t see any value in social “sciences”, hence contributing to public ignorance about societal problems.

        And with how lousy political views of “rational”, “logical”, “critically thinking” people in STEM sometimes are, it’s awfully ironic.

        Speaking as a disgruntled Russian STEM scientist who is horrified how willingly some of his collages ate Putin’s reasons for actions both against Ukraine and within Russia, including against fellow scientists (WTF, where’s professional solidarity?!).

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      • explodicle@sh.itjust.works ⁨11⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        All the zombies

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    • ghost_of_faso2@lemmygrad.ml ⁨11⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      only a self inflated STEM-oid would take a joke in the OP and use it to delegitmamize an entire field of science based on vibes

      having a BA in physics doesnt make you able to disprove social sciences, dont be like bobby fischer.

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  • Diplomjodler3@lemmy.world ⁨11⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    But it’s the physicists’ job to find this stuff.

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    • goferking0@lemmy.sdf.org ⁨11⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      More astrophysicists

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  • rustydrd@sh.itjust.works ⁨11⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    To be fair, political scientists probably don’t know where 95% of the politics is hidden either.

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    • Telodzrum@lemmy.world ⁨11⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      Trick question, all politics is local.

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  • Shampiss@sh.itjust.works ⁨11⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    Sure, physicists can just keep track of about 5% of the universe’s mass. That’s their whole job, and they just got 5%!? Are they stupid??

    Who are you to complain Brenda?! The only thing you keep track of is the amount of Oreos you have in the pantry

    5% of the universe is still several trillions of tons of mass! Although I suppose a good part of that is your fat ass!

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    • Ashyr@sh.itjust.works ⁨11⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      Several trillion tons of mass? I think you’re off by many orders of magnitude.

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      • Dasus@lemmy.world ⁨11⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        You’re right.

        Earth itself weighs about 7 sextillion tons.

        Sextillion in the short scale being to the 24th power while trillions being only 12th power.

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  • Kolanaki@yiffit.net ⁨11⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    Have they tried looking behind planets and nebulas and shit? I bet a lot of the universe is just hiding behind stuff.

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    • roguetrick@lemmy.world ⁨11⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      Actually saying that socks and remote controls can sometimes turn into something that interacts with the EM field would explain a lot.

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  • JayObey711@lemmy.world ⁨11⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    As someone who spontaneously decided to study history / political science instead of physics, although I have been preparing to be a physicist the entire time, I can proudly say: At least I am happy. I spend most of my time doing fun and fulfilling things, instead of showing up at uni at 8 in the morning and arriving home at 8 in the evening just to work on homework. All my friends went into mint and they are stressed, don’t have time to do anything and just seem the worst i have ever seen them.

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    • watersnipje@lemmy.blahaj.zone ⁨11⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      Mint? Like Linux Mint?

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      • Micromot@lemmy.zip ⁨11⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        Math IT Nature Technology I’m not sure if this is germany exclusive

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      • gwen@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨11⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        summoning linux mint cult

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  • pseudo@jlai.lu ⁨11⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    Yes, Physics majors are a bit too hierachical with science like there were not doing non-rigorous math themselves but let’s be honest: on the other spectrum of real/fake science it is very very hard to find actual people seriously studying the field, like you have to go up to doctorant to find the kind of serious study you find in physic undergrad.

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  • Sotuanduso@lemm.ee ⁨11⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    Science politics.

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