Comment on Well, I guess that settles it

python@programming.dev ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

• Enoblk@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

  When someone from America says they Italian or whatever they aren’t talking about nationality, it’s about ancestry, where your family came from not what county you were born in

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  • Lost_My_Mind@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

    No no no no…it’s about what kind of food your mom cooked when you were a kid.

    Which makes me…uhhhhhh…clown? I don’t know. She bought a lot of McDonalds.

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    • MacNCheezus@lemmy.today ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

      So… Scottish?

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      • aeronmelon@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

        I don’t know how, but your comment wove a huge Scottish folk tale in my head revolving around fast food franchises.

        in a loud Scottish accent “Let us sing of the day that the McDonalds slew the evil Burger King and rescued Wendy from her castle top prison, which was guarded by the monstrous Jack in the Box!”

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    • aeronmelon@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

      She was constantly making lemon meringue pies?

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• MacNCheezus@lemmy.today ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

  Dude’s name is Luigi FFS and his last name sounds like a pizza restaurant. That settles it for me, thank you very much.

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  • python@programming.dev ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

    You joke, but that kind of prejudice is pretty hurtful in day to day life

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    • shadearg@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

      It’s important to remember that the Italians and the Irish were treated as a low rung of American society not all that long ago.

      They are legitimate victims of the brunt of American hate.

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      • lemmyknow@lemmy.today ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

        Is there anyone Americans haven’t hated and/or discriminated against yet? Anyone ever not been a victim of the US?

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    • RagingRobot@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

      Is it though? You would be hurt if someone thought you were Italian? You must think pretty poorly of them lol

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      • Turret3857@infosec.pub ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

        My name comes from an ethnic background but I dont look ethnic so I always get weird Looks at doctors offices because of it. I think its pretty funny but I guess some people dont find it as funny to be “profiled” so to speak. It really depends on the culture you grew up in and how high tolerance actually was for that sort of thing in your life, at least thats my two cents. I dont mind it but others might.

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    • MacNCheezus@lemmy.today ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

      Buddy, I’m German, I assure you I’ve been subjected to plenty of prejudice myself thank you very much. Ever seen Die Hard? So flattering.

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      • pyre@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

        on aversge, how many "nein"s do you hear from non-germans per day?

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    • pyre@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

      sorry but Luigi Mangione sounds like a name a token Italian character would have in harry potter. idk how prejudiced it is to assume this is an italian name.

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    • GrammarPolice@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

      Everything is hurtful now. Even nationality… jeez

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    • rickyrigatoni@lemm.ee ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

      Who cares?

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• bdonvr@thelemmy.club ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

  According to Italian law if you have Italian ancestry, you’re Italian. There’s a whole process (with many asterisks and exceptions) in which you can apply to get your Italian passport

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  • medgremlin@midwest.social ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

    My great grandfather was an Italian immigrant. My father is looking into getting an Italian passport. Maybe being a soon-to-be physician will improve my chances of getting one too. (Maybe I’ll switch from learning French to learning Italian too)

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• int_not_found@feddit.org ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

  The word you are looking for is enthnicity. Enthnicity describes the (self-)perceived belonging to a population group. This is of course highly subjective.

  There is undeniably perception of grouping in the US based on heritage, where it doesn’t really matter when your ancestors arrived, just from where. So from an American POV it makes sense to call him Italian, because he is in the same perceived group as all the people from Italy.

  On the other hand from a European POV it doesn’t really matter, where your great grandparents come from. You are part of the US-Group, so you are American.

  This is not an exclusive US Problem, but a general migration problem & it happens everywhere. Comments like yours are the reason, why people from migrated families feel like they are in-between cultures. Instead of writing snarky comments on the internet, just accept that your perception of ethnicity is part of your ethnicity and other people can have other perceptions.

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  • MutilationWave@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

    Ever heard a white American try to have the tired-ass what’s your ancestry conversation with a black American descended from slaves? It’s pretty awkward. I hate these conversations and they need to stop.

    I get it all the time because my last name is pretty distinctively German, even though it’s been anglicized.

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• sirico@feddit.uk ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

  White Africans and Black Germans must have a great old time over there

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  • spankmonkey@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

    White Africans

    Charlize Theron is doing fantastic!

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    • LifeInMultipleChoice@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

      So is Musk

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      • spankmonkey@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

        I intentionally chose someone else because fuck Musk.

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• _LordMcNuggets_@feddit.org ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

  More of a

  visits Italy for the first time over summer continues to tell every living soul that their father’s father’s neighbour’s goldfish, was italian to everyone … scenario

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