Yup meltdowns happen sometimes. AND there’s the century-long legacy of radioactive waste!
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bjoern_tantau@swg-empire.de 4 months ago
lettruthout@lemmy.world 4 months ago
rtxn@lemmy.world 4 months ago
Oh joy, I get to bust out these bad boys again! www.youtube.com/watch?v=4aUODXeAM-k www.youtube.com/watch?v=lhHHbgIy9jU
There’s also that one guy who touched the hot part and is now using that tiny blister to conduct a decades-long smear campaign against pots.
luce@lemmy.blahaj.zone 4 months ago
kyle hill is interesting to me because when he is making videos about nuclear it is either the most terrifying nuclear horror story yet or facts and statistics about how safe nuclear is. I personally believe nuclear to be a super safe and efficient way to create energy, its just something funny I noticed. Makes me think about how common coal accidents are and how little they are covered compared to something supposedly scary like nuclear.
skulblaka@sh.itjust.works 4 months ago
Nuclear has the same problem as aviation, by average it’s many many times safer than most alternatives, but any time something goes wrong it has a high chance of going extremely wrong and making an international scene. So it’s generally safer but every accident makes world news.
Tar_alcaran@sh.itjust.works 4 months ago
I agree. We should deal with nuclear waste in the same way we handle the waste from other fossil fuels: by spreading it over the entire planet in a thin, even coating so that everyone is equally affected!
renzev@lemmy.world 4 months ago
Back in middle school, our science teacher decided to make the class do a debate about different types of energy sources in order to learn about their advantages and disadvantages. I was on the pro-nuclear team, and we were wracking our brains trying to come up with a rebuttal to “but what about the waste?” until some madlad basically came up with this great argument:
We can just dump all of the nuclear waste on Belgium. It will take a really long time before it fills up, and nobody cares about Belgium anyway
The anti-nuclear team had no good response, and we actually got a point for that argument because we looked up the relevant statistics (nuclear waste output, belgium surface area, etc.) and calculated exactly how long it would take to turn belgium into a radioactive wasteland.
Tar_alcaran@sh.itjust.works 4 months ago
There’s a really simple answer to the waste problem though. And it’s super, blatantly obvious.
All nuclear material is basically ground up rocks that we dug out of a hole and then filtered the spicy bits out of. So grind it back up, pour it into concrete and stuff it back down the same hole it came from. Of course, you can’t legally do that, but that’s only because we have a ton of rules what constitutes safe disposal, etc. Recreating the original conditions basically meant you’re (re)creating something unsafe, but we do that in a LOT of places.
Shiggles@sh.itjust.works 4 months ago
You’re so right - we should just pump all our crap out into the biosphere instead and keep burning coal.
naught101@lemmy.world 4 months ago
Solar and wind are currently both cheaper than coal, and rapidly getting cheaper.
Nuclear is more expensive, and the cost is growing. There will be almost certainly be no private investment in nuclear in the future unless it’s ideologically driven.
brbposting@sh.itjust.works 4 months ago
Come on let’s get some price breaks on the solar towers!
I totally know what solar towers are
KillingTimeItself@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 months ago
Nuclear is more expensive, and the cost is growing. There will be almost certainly be no private investment in nuclear in the future unless it’s ideologically driven.
even if this is the case, i still think it’s a good idea to at least invest in research and development in nuclear fission, which might even help fusion down the road. Not to mention it’s always good to have alternatives. Would be a shame if we found out that solar panels are actually the new asbestos or something silly.
Shiggles@sh.itjust.works 4 months ago
almost certainly no private investment in nuclear in the future
I too refuse to read any news, ever, if it doesn’t support my viewpoint. Definitely no current investments in nuclear at the moment.
I like wind and solar! They’re not the whole of the solution for the whole globe though. There’s no reason to keep spreading the fossil fuel industry’s propaganda for them.
rumschlumpel@feddit.org 4 months ago
century-long legacy
At least millenia, might be epochs (million years) …
ramble81@lemm.ee 4 months ago
Though if Chernobyl is any indication in a few decades nature works its way around it.
luce@lemmy.blahaj.zone 4 months ago
The dangerous radiation disappears much much sooner then that. And if its millions of years, life would adapt, more then it already has. en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Radiotrophic_fungus
gandalf_der_12te@discuss.tchncs.de 4 months ago
Interesting link, thanks. Also, radiotrophic fungus is speculation at this point and has never been found in nature.
stoy@lemmy.zip 4 months ago
Luckily waste storage is a solved peoblem.
Drill hole in bedrock, put waste in hole, backfill with clay.
swab148@lemm.ee 4 months ago
Drill hole in bedrock, nuclear waste falls into the void and despawns, problem solved
reallykindasorta@slrpnk.net 4 months ago
And that pot looks iron!
dohpaz42@lemmy.world 4 months ago
How’d you get a photo of my stove top from tonight?
Hupf@feddit.org 4 months ago
The infamous elephant’s foot
captain_aggravated@sh.itjust.works 4 months ago
So. When I was in my junior year of college, the dorm I lived in was built more like a high occupancy apartment rather than a college dorm room, it had a living room and a kitchenette. No built-in stove but we were allowed to have a hot plate, so I went to K-Mart and bought a double burner one.
For some reason, one of my roommates had a cereal bowl that was in the shape of a saucepan. It was made of plastic, but it was black and had a handle. One day I walk into the apartment to an ungodly chemical smell and exactly the image above.