I saw that he went through a starbucks. If he had something to drink there then he is as good as caught and probably not a hitman. There are almost no US citizens that cant be identified through DNA.
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gravitas_deficiency@sh.itjust.works 2 weeks agoWait, is the consensus now that it was a hitman, and not just someone with some luck, skill, and an axe to grind?
unexposedhazard@discuss.tchncs.de 2 weeks ago
BakerBagel@midwest.social 2 weeks ago
If he chucked them into a public garbage can then they won’t be able to get anything useful from the items. They’ll be so contaminated that you can’t get a clean sample.
starman2112@sh.itjust.works 2 weeks ago
This is NYPD we’re talking about, these will be super useful for arresting and convicting someone that some cop doesn’t like
Killer_Tree@sh.itjust.works 2 weeks ago
Tell that to the Grim Sleeper!
Rivalarrival@lemmy.today 2 weeks ago
An unclean sample won’t be useful in court, but it will be useful to the investigation. When that contaminated sample comes back to 4 people who don’t match the description, and two people who do, the investigation narrows to those two suspects. When they finally do find the guy, they can go back and re-interpret the rest of their evidence in 20/20 hindsight before taking it to court.
About the only way this guy isn’t going to get caught is if investigators are selectively incompetent, and/or the general public realizes it needs to “I’m Spartacus” the investigators.
mkwt@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
It seems he had to clear multiple malfunctions, and that suggests his firearm was poorly setup with the suppressor.
Fecundpossum@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
I’m also of the mind that knowing the limitations of his setup, he trained around his need to manually cycle his weapon. In the video, he did so smoothly and efficiently without any perceptible panic in his movements.
mkwt@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
That seems entirely feasible.
makyo@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
Curous to know more about this as a person with very little understanding of the actual functionality of guns
Fecundpossum@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
So, many older pistol designs used a barrel in a fixed position in relation to the pistols frame. Due to this configuration, the added weight of a suppressor hanging from the barrel does not impede the mechanical operation of the slide cycling.
Modern pistol designs utilize variations of John Brownings tilting barrel design. Because the barrel tilts during the cycling of the pistol, the weight of the suppressor interrupts the movement of the barrel and slide preventing a full stroke of the slide to eject the spent case and feed another round from the magazine. Not good.
In response, something called a Nielsen device was developed, basically a cylinder with a spring in it that encourages the pistol slide to fully cycle. These are sometimes referred to as a “piston” or “booster”.
Suppressors are heavily regulated by the ATF, and id have to guess that when seeking one on the grey or black market, or manufacturing your own, a Nielsen device is not easy to replicate with crude means, nor easy to find on the street.
TL:DR dude was missing a part that makes a pistol work more gooder with a suppressor.
Source: I gun.
MrVilliam@lemm.ee 2 weeks ago
In a normal, unsuppressed semiautomatic pistol gunshot, you pull the trigger, a precise little pin strikes the back-center of a bullet, this causes the gunpowder in the back of the bullet to spark and ignite and explode. The projectile portion of the bullet rides the wave of the explosion at supersonic speed down the barrel of the gun, which determines the direction of the path. There is an initial increase of backpressure of gas between the projectile and the back of the barrel, but semiautomatic weapons make use of this to push back the slide, expelling the spent casing and that gas and allowing the spring in the magazine to push the next round into place for the next shot, also significantly reducing recoil in the process.
Suppressors (or “silencers”) work by slowing the bullet down and altering the propulsion gas path. Subsonic speeds means no sonic boom. The downside is that you must manually cycle each round yourself, and you will likely experience more recoil per shot.
Afaik, suppressors are pretty damn hard to legally obtain, so my knowledge of them is a combination of my firsthand accounts with my unsuppressed guns, secondhand accounts of suppressors, a moderate understanding of physics, and some guesswork. I could be wrong about some of this, but this is my general understanding that I carry around with me.
Fecundpossum@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
I don’t want to be a hater, but you’re wrong about a lot of things in this post. Supressors do not slow a projectile, and in most cases actually increase muzzle velocity due to increased dwell time for gas expansion. They suppress muzzle flash and report by containing said gasses. Sonic booms still happen, and supressors work more effectively with specific sub sonic ammunition, which is usually achieved with a heavier projectile weight lowering the velocity.
I’m not trying to dunk on you here, just trying to educate.
Obtaining a supressor isn’t too difficult, but you do have to be thoroughly screened by the ATF after submitting photos, fingerprints, and a form, and a $200 tax, which leads me to believe this suppressor was homemade and lacked a Nielsen device, see my thread above.
Fecundpossum@lemmy.world 1 week ago
youtu.be/nIbY6lo0RIw?si=OQl71KDEAGq8krK8
Here’s an expert explaining it better.
Poots@mander.xyz 2 weeks ago
I wonder if the gun jammed up because of weak grip tbh. Ever shot a .45 and had it jam? It’s most likely because the gun is too powerful for your grip - the slide doesn’t move back and forth properly and then you have to clear the jam like dude does in the video.
Anyway, reason for jamming aside, dude was committed/practiced, but I don’t think he’s ‘catching casings’ like others initially suggested. This wasn’t that smooth.
Fecundpossum@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
See my comments below. I’m pretty convinced he was manually cycling his slide because his suppressor, whether homemade or street sourced, lacked a Nielsen device or “piston” or “booster”
eran_morad@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
Whichever you prefer. My 2 cents is that it’s probably a hitman. But it doesn’t matter, does it.
gravitas_deficiency@sh.itjust.works 2 weeks ago
Found a video, and yeah, it does really look like it was a pro
Infynis@midwest.social 2 weeks ago
And he immediately fled on a hard-to-track vehicle into an area with low surveillance. He might not have been hired, but he almost definitely knew what he was doing
captain_aggravated@sh.itjust.works 2 weeks ago
So you’re saying he looked like a guy with a plan.
Sailing7@lemmy.ml 2 weeks ago
Where in the hell did you find an uncut version?
Every search on public search engines I’ve tried only link to public media - which cut before the shooter starts shooting.
Glitterbomb@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
slrpnk.net/post/15843936
smort@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
The one uncut and unblurred one was a streamable link on a reddit thread in a smaller subreddit. Forget which though
simplejack@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
Most of my knowledge about hitmen comes from watching Bourne movies and playing Hitman Go on the toilet.
I’m going to assume that I probably don’t know what a real professional looks like.
ricecake@sh.itjust.works 2 weeks ago
From what we know about real hitmen, they tend to be unsettling, since a willingness to murder people is at minimum a sign of an indifference towards life.
They often buy not always have personality traits in common with serial killers.