When I hear “AI”, I think of that thing that proofreads my emails and writes boilerplate code. Just a useful tool among a long list of others. Why would I spend emotional effort hating it? I think people who “hate” AI are just as annoying as the people pushing it as the solution to all our problems.
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GreenKnight23@lemmy.world 5 days agoI don’t get the ai hate sentiment.
I don’t get what’s not to get. AI is a heap of bullshit that’s piled on top of a decade of cryptobros.
it’s not even impressive enough to make a positive world impact in the 2-3 years it’s been publicly available.
shit is going to crash and burn like web3.
I’ve seen people put full on contracts that are behind NDAs through a public content trained AI.
I’ve seen developers use cuck-pilot for a year and “never” code again… until the PR is sent back over and over and over again and they have to rewrite it.
I’ve seen the AI news about new chemicals, new science, new _fill-in-the-blank and it all be PR bullshit.
so yeah, I don’t believe AI is our savior. can it make some convincing porn? sure. can it do my taxes? probably not.
renzev@lemmy.world 5 days ago
technocrit@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 days ago
I don’t think anybody hates computers or spell check. It’s the grifters pushing phony “AI”.
GreenKnight23@lemmy.world 5 days ago
when I get an email written by AI, it means the person who sent it doesn’t deem me worth their time to respond to me themselves.
I get a lot of email that I have to read for work. It used to be about 30 a day that I had to respond to. now that people are using AI, it’s at or over 100 a day.
I provide technical consulting and give accurate feedback based on my knowledge and experience on the product I have built over the last decade and a half.
if nobody is reading my email why does it matter if I’m accurate? if generative AI is training on my knowledge and experience where does that leave me in 5 years?
business is built on trust, AI circumvents that trust by replacing the nuances between partners that grow that trust.
explodicle@sh.itjust.works 5 days ago
Hi there GreenKnight23!
I don’t think it’s necessarily you personally they find a waste of time… it might be the layers of fluff that most business emails contain. They don’t know if you’re the sort of person who expects it.
Best Regards,
Explodicle<br> Internet Comment Writer<br> sh.itjust.works
Tja@programming.dev 5 days ago
If I just hand wave all the good things and call them bullshit, AI is nothing more than bad things!
- Lemmy
GreenKnight23@lemmy.world 5 days ago
If I just hand wave all the bad things and call them amazing, AI is everything but the bad things!
cryptobrosAI evangelists
Feathercrown@lemmy.world 5 days ago
What do you think AI has to do with crypto, other than that they are both technologies which have entered the mainstream recently and been pushed hard? Like, what do they actually have in common?
GreenKnight23@lemmy.world 5 days ago
the crypto scam ended when the AI scam started. AI conveniently uses the same/similar hardware that crypto used before the bubble burst.
that not enough? take a look at this google trends that shows when interest in crypto died AI took off.
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so yeah, there’s a lot more that connects the two than what you’d like people to believe.
CileTheSane@lemmy.ca 5 days ago
Current “AI’s” (LLMs) are only useful for art and non-fact based text. The two things people particularly do not need computers to do for them.
IsoSpandy@lemm.ee 5 days ago
Llms fucking suck. But that’s the worst kind of ai. It’s just an autocorrect on steroids. But you know what a good ai is? The one that give an amino acid sequence predicts it’s 3d structure. It’s mind boggling. We can design personal protein robots with that kind of knowledge.
CileTheSane@lemmy.ca 4 days ago
I agree, but the reason for all the AI hate is companies pushing LLMs, calling them AIs, and treating them like some miracle that is worth all the energy they consume. If we try to differentiate between LLMs and AI then the AI hate will go away.
yankaremonsters@leminal.space 5 days ago
hey bitch youre killed two people in your trolley problem. You suck bro. Why did you kill two people? You should be attached on the track bro, not gonna lie.
Jakeroxs@sh.itjust.works 5 days ago
Frfr no cap
Feathercrown@lemmy.world 5 days ago
it’s not even impressive enough to make a positive world impact in the 2-3 years it’s been publicly available.
It literally just won people two Nobel prizes
drunkpostdisaster@lemmy.world 5 days ago
How does that help the rest of us?
Feathercrown@lemmy.world 5 days ago
It allows us to predict the structure of proteins before we make them. This can speed up research into protein-based medical treatments by astronomical amounts-- drugs which took years to develop through trial and error and/or thousands of hours of computational power can now be predicted beforehand in terms of their structure, which allows us to predict how they interact woth the proteins in our body. It’s an incredible breakthrough in the speed of medical research.
drunkpostdisaster@lemmy.world 2 days ago
I am talking about them winning the award
iAvicenna@lemmy.world 5 days ago
with the compute power required for models like alphafold, my guess is it will be at the monopoly of some corporation which will charge exorbitant prices for any drugs it develops through AI. Not a fault of AI itself, just fucking parasitic shareholder pigs which we should have eaten long ago.
bignate31@lemmy.world 5 days ago
It’s hype like this that breaks the back of the public when “AI doesn’t change anything”. Don’t get me wrong: AlphaFold has done incredible things. We can now create computational models of proteins in a few hours instead of a decade. But the difference between a computational model and the actual thing is like the difference between a piece of cheese and yellow plastic: they both melt nicely but you’d never want one of them in your quesadilla.
technocrit@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 days ago
Hooray for them. \s
daniskarma@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 days ago
If AI image generation is so bad why we have so many etsy and patreon artists complaining about it?
If no one would use it because it is so bad why would anyone care that it is trained on their products?
Do you know this joke about MAGA and the Schrodinger’s immigrant? They somehow believe that immigrants are both stealing people jobs and lazy and living on wellfare.
AntiAI bros are somehow similar. AI is at the same time stealing artists jobs and completely useless incapable of producing nothing that people would want.
Vigge93@lemmy.world 5 days ago
You are ignoring ALL of the of the positive applications of AI from several decades of development, and only focusing on the negative aspects of generative AI.
Here is a non-exhaustive list of some applications:
There have even been a lot of good applications of generative AI, e.g. in production, especially for construction, where a generative AI can the functionally same product but with less material, while still maintaining the strength. This reduces cost of manufacturing, and also the environmental impact due to the reduced material usage.
Does AI have its problems? Sure. Is generative AI being misused and abused? Definitely. But just because some applications are useless it doesn’t mean that the whole field is.
A hammer can be used to murder someone, that does not mean that all hammers are murder weapons.
GreenKnight23@lemmy.world 5 days ago
give me at least two peer reviewed articles that AI has had a measurably positive impact on society over the last 24 months.
shouldn’t be too hard for AI to come up with that, right?
if you can do that then I’ll admit that AI has potential to become more than a crypto scam.
ChairmanMeow@programming.dev 5 days ago
He’s already given you 5 examples of positive impact. You’re just moving the goalposts now.
I’m happy to bash morons who abuse generative AIs in bad applications and I can acknowledge that LLM-fuelled misinformation is a problem, but don’t lump “all AI” together and then deny the very obvious positive impact other applications have had (e.g. in healthcare).
GreenKnight23@lemmy.world 5 days ago
those aren’t examples they’re hearsay. “oh everybody knows this to be true”
generative AI is the only “AI”. everything that came before that was a thought experiment based on the human perception of a neural network. it’d be like calling a first draft a finished book.
if you consider the Turing Test AI then it blurs the line between a neural net and nested if/else logic.
great, give an example of this being used to save lives from a peer reviewed source that won’t be biased by product development or hospital marketing.
let’s be real here, this is still a golden turd and is more ML than AI. I know because it’s my job to know.
hearsay, give a creditable source of when this was used to save lives. I doubt that AI could ever be used in this way because it’s basic disaster triage, which would open ANY company up to litigation should their algorithm kill someone.
this dumb. AI isn’t even used in this and you know it. algorithms are not AI. falls are detected when a sudden gyroscopic speed/ direction is identified based on a set number of variables. everyone falls the same when your phone is in your pocket. dropping your phone will show differently due to a change in mass and spin. again, algorithmic not AI.
forecasting is an algorithm not AI. ML would determine the percentage of an algorithm is accurate based on what it knows. algorithms and ML is not AI.
this reads just like the marketing bullshit companies promote to show how “altruistic” they are.
I won’t deny there is potential there, but we’re a loooong way from meaningful impact.
just because a hammer is a hammer doesn’t mean it can’t be used to commit murder. dumbest argument ever, right up there with “only way to stop a bad guy with a gun is a good guy with a gun.”
technocrit@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 days ago
Who’s upvoting this? Is Lemmy really this scientifically illiterate?
IsoSpandy@lemm.ee 5 days ago
LLMs fucking suck. But there are things that don’t suck. AI chess engines have entirety changed the game, AI protein predictors have made designer drugs and nanobots come within our grasp.
It’s just that tech bros want to grab quick cash from us peasants and that somehow equates to integrating chat gpt into everything. The most moronic of AI has become their poster child. It’s like if we asked people what a US president is like in character and everybody showed Trump to them as an example.
technocrit@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 days ago
Imaginary and unproven cases for non-existent “intelligence”.
mayo@lemmy.world 5 days ago
These are not imaginary uses cases. Are you generally critical of technology?