Comment on Xbox lays off 268 more employees, merges Obsidian into Bethesda and puts Activision in charge of Halo

ZapBeebz_@lemmy.world ⁨11⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

• Sabin10@lemmy.world ⁨11⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

  Post bungie halo has been like watching a train wreck in slow motion, the series has survived the last 16 years on reputation alone.

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  • QueenHawlSera@piefed.social ⁨7⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    Post Halo Bungie hasn’t fared much better….

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• warm@kbin.earth ⁨11⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

  It literally doesnt matter. Halo died with Bungie and Bungie died with Halo.

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• psx_crab@lemmy.zip ⁨10⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

  On the bright side, Activision is quite capable of making the exact same game over and over again and consistently. Their knowledge of beating the dead horse is borderline necromancy. Can’t say the same for 343.

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  • SaharaMaleikuhm@feddit.org ⁨8⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    Tbf if you were to give Halo back to Bungie they too would fuck it up nowadays.

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    • allidoislietomyself@lemmy.world ⁨4⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      Yeah Bungie today is a shell of their former selves. They just did a whole video basically saying “We know we suck, we’re sorry. We’ll get better and make better games.” but I ain’t holding my breath.

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  • harrys_balzac@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨6⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    Oh it is straight up necromancy and Black Ops might be necrophilia.

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    • wreckedcarzz@lemmy.world ⁨5⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      “what if we did halo [iteration], but with zombies? what do you mean they already have that? they did it when?! great, how the fuck do we innovate now? can’t we just add shooting some brown people and call it halo: space black ops?” -Activision ceo, tomorrow

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      • psx_crab@lemmy.zip ⁨5⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

        If you already done zombie, what left is really alien, simple as that.

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• harrys_balzac@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨11⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

  Halo Black Ops

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  • Quicky@piefed.social ⁨5⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    That was ODST

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    • bluelabel@lemmy.world ⁨5⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      ODST Black Ops

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• AustralianSimon@lemmy.world ⁨11⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

  CODification here it comes. Couldn’t be worse than the current state of Halo though?

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  • Sonotsugipaa@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨9⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    Halo became what it is now because they tried to turn it into CoD, so it couldn’t be better either

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• RightHandOfIkaros@lemmy.world ⁨8⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

  Activision doesn’t only publish Call of Duty though. They publish all kinds of games: Sekiro, the Tony Hawk games, Crash Bandicoot, Spyro, etc.

  Way more potential than what 343 had. I mean, 343 was purposefully NOT hiring former Bungie-era Halo employees. The important ones, like Marcus Lehto, Marty ODonnell, heck they only brought Joe Staten to get Infinite “back on track” and then promptly kicked him to the curb too. 343 definitely deserved this earlier, I am gonna be honest.

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  • ZapBeebz_@lemmy.world ⁨8⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    The games you mentioned ring in my head as mid-2000s highlights, with nothing more than blatant money grabs published in the last decade. Not very indicative of a healthy studio imo. They may have once been capable of turning out good games, but that was roughly in the era 343 was turning out good games too

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    • Armok_the_bunny@lemmy.world ⁨7⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      Sekiro is the exception to that, but that’s more on FromSoft than it is on Activision, to the extent that it actually hadn’t registered in my mind that Activision was involved with that game at all.

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      • ZapBeebz_@lemmy.world ⁨7⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

        Yeah exactly FromSoft is turning out bangers, and somehow Activision is involved? Maybe just to the extent that they aren’t involved so can’t fuck anything up?

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    • psx_crab@lemmy.zip ⁨5⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      but that was roughly in the era 343 was turning out good games too

      What, HALO 4?

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      • ZapBeebz_@lemmy.world ⁨15⁩ ⁨minutes⁩ ago

        Halo 1-3 were 2001-2007, which counts as early- to mid-2000s. Halo 4 was 2012, in the early 2010s

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    • RightHandOfIkaros@lemmy.world ⁨7⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      My point is that Activision isn’t a studio. It’s a publisher. I read Activision said they are forming a new studio for Halo.

      I mean, I didn’t bring up all of Activisions classic games like Pitfall, just the most recent games they have published since those are most relevant to the topic.

      “the era 343 aas turning out good games too”

      Ok but that never really happened. Ensemble made Halo Wars and Creative Assembly made the sequel which were decent IMO (the first being better IMO). Every other game with the Halo brand under 343 was garbage. Forget about Spartan Strike and Spartan Assault? 343s first game was Halo CE Anniversary, which was horrendously bad, so I suppose it is poetic in a way that Halo Studios, which only survived long enough to drop a single game, would die with yet another rehash of Halo CE.

      Except for maybe Fireteam Raven, only because I never had the chance to play it, 343 never had an “era of making good games.” Halo 2A was pretty good but it launched in the very broken MCC which took them years to fix.

      4,5, and Infinite were the absolute low points of Halo, with Infinite being the best of the three only because of the art direction. But they are all far below Bungie-era Halo games.

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