It literally doesnt matter. Halo died with Bungie and Bungie died with Halo.
ZapBeebz_@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
Activision in charge of Halo? That’s a deathblow if ever I heard one.
warm@kbin.earth 2 weeks ago
psx_crab@lemmy.zip 2 weeks ago
On the bright side, Activision is quite capable of making the exact same game over and over again and consistently. Their knowledge of beating the dead horse is borderline necromancy. Can’t say the same for 343.
SaharaMaleikuhm@feddit.org 2 weeks ago
Tbf if you were to give Halo back to Bungie they too would fuck it up nowadays.
allidoislietomyself@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
Yeah Bungie today is a shell of their former selves. They just did a whole video basically saying “We know we suck, we’re sorry. We’ll get better and make better games.” but I ain’t holding my breath.
harrys_balzac@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 weeks ago
Oh it is straight up necromancy and Black Ops might be necrophilia.
wreckedcarzz@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
“what if we did halo [iteration], but with zombies? what do you mean they already have that? they did it when?! great, how the fuck do we innovate now? can’t we just add shooting some brown people and call it halo: space black ops?” -Activision ceo, tomorrow
psx_crab@lemmy.zip 2 weeks ago
If you already done zombie, what left is really alien, simple as that.
harrys_balzac@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 weeks ago
Halo Black Ops
Quicky@piefed.social 2 weeks ago
That was ODST
bluelabel@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
ODST Black Ops
AustralianSimon@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
CODification here it comes. Couldn’t be worse than the current state of Halo though?
Sonotsugipaa@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 weeks ago
Halo became what it is now because they tried to turn it into CoD, so it couldn’t be better either
Cethin@lemmy.zip 2 weeks ago
I would argue that it probably does give better odds for it at Activision. They already have CoD. They don’t need to turn Halo into CoD. They can just use Halo to do something new.
I think I remember that they made a CoD with like mech suits or something, and a lot more movement mechanics, and it wasn’t received well. That’s basically what Halo is. Now they can go fully into that without CoD players complaining that it isn’t CoD.
I don’t have much faith in this, but I do think there’s better odds for a better Halo with Activision probably. 343 didn’t get it. Activision may not, but doing something new has to be better than continuing to fuck things up over and over.
Sonotsugipaa@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 weeks ago
343 has been trying to do “something new” (chasing trends, mostly) every time they didn’t remaster an existing game, it’s not necesssarily going to work out.
At this point Halo is just a brand, a franchise, a trademark to be slapped onto whatever the IP owners want to do with a popularity boost - the story (/ lore / narrative) has been brought to hell and back and to hell again, and the gameplay has been bent so much with each title that it doesn’t really have an identity anymore either.
CoD players won’t like it because it’s not CoD, Halo players will play it for a few hours because At Least It’s Kinda Fun I Guess™, everyone else will be like “Halo? Like, the one Jesus had?”, and whatever contractors Microsoft/Activision will hire won’t be given enough time, space or resources to cook something that is more than mediocre.
RightHandOfIkaros@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
Activision doesn’t only publish Call of Duty though. They publish all kinds of games: Sekiro, the Tony Hawk games, Crash Bandicoot, Spyro, etc.
Way more potential than what 343 had. I mean, 343 was purposefully NOT hiring former Bungie-era Halo employees. The important ones, like Marcus Lehto, Marty ODonnell, heck they only brought Joe Staten to get Infinite “back on track” and then promptly kicked him to the curb too. 343 definitely deserved this earlier, I am gonna be honest.
ZapBeebz_@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
The games you mentioned ring in my head as mid-2000s highlights, with nothing more than blatant money grabs published in the last decade. Not very indicative of a healthy studio imo. They may have once been capable of turning out good games, but that was roughly in the era 343 was turning out good games too
Armok_the_bunny@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
Sekiro is the exception to that, but that’s more on FromSoft than it is on Activision, to the extent that it actually hadn’t registered in my mind that Activision was involved with that game at all.
ZapBeebz_@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
Yeah exactly FromSoft is turning out bangers, and somehow Activision is involved? Maybe just to the extent that they aren’t involved so can’t fuck anything up?
psx_crab@lemmy.zip 2 weeks ago
ZapBeebz_@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
Halo 1-3 were 2001-2007, which counts as early- to mid-2000s. Halo 4 was 2012, in the early 2010s
RightHandOfIkaros@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
My point is that Activision isn’t a studio. It’s a publisher. I read Activision said they are forming a new studio for Halo.
I mean, I didn’t bring up all of Activisions classic games like Pitfall, just the most recent games they have published since those are most relevant to the topic.
“the era 343 aas turning out good games too”
Ok but that never really happened. Ensemble made Halo Wars and Creative Assembly made the sequel which were decent IMO (the first being better IMO). Every other game with the Halo brand under 343 was garbage. Forget about Spartan Strike and Spartan Assault? 343s first game was Halo CE Anniversary, which was horrendously bad, so I suppose it is poetic in a way that Halo Studios, which only survived long enough to drop a single game, would die with yet another rehash of Halo CE.
Except for maybe Fireteam Raven, only because I never had the chance to play it, 343 never had an “era of making good games.” Halo 2A was pretty good but it launched in the very broken MCC which took them years to fix.
4,5, and Infinite were the absolute low points of Halo, with Infinite being the best of the three only because of the art direction. But they are all far below Bungie-era Halo games.
Cethin@lemmy.zip 2 weeks ago
This isn’t publishing. This is development. Halo will be an Activision developed game.
lemmyvore@feddit.nl 2 weeks ago
At this point a deathblow would be a kindness for the Halo franchise.
Sabin10@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
Post bungie halo has been like watching a train wreck in slow motion, the series has survived the last 16 years on reputation alone.
QueenHawlSera@piefed.social 2 weeks ago
Post Halo Bungie hasn’t fared much better….
Sabin10@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
I enjoyed destiny and destiny 2 but you could definitely feel them slipping, especially the fumble where they straight up removed parts of destiny 2.
Tried marathon on a free weekend and it was fine but there are so many other games that are better than fine and doing similar things. The only thing it had going for it was the bungie gunplay which is still as solid as ever.
QueenHawlSera@piefed.social 2 weeks ago
Them removing stuff from Destiny 2 is why I stopped playing…. Took me awhile to get the expansion and by the time I did they removed the content that expansion added, making it impossible for me to catch up with the lore and wasting my money.