Japan is probably the closest by actually having the hikikomori problem in public discourse. Most of the rest of the world they probably end up homeless.
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eah@programming.dev 2 weeks ago
There should be a government program to handle situations like this if there aren’t. Take an assessment of their current skills and interests and get them into employment and/or training for something that fits. You basically need to intervene when the parents won’t and do it in a way that’s as least stressful for the person as possible. It would pay off in the end because this person may end up on government assistance later when they most need it. Politicians who can pull this off may get to claim to have reduced unemployment in their reelection campaign. And it’s just a good thing to do. Some people won’t take the initiative. You have to do it for them and hold their hand.
OctopusNemeses@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
tetris11@feddit.uk 2 weeks ago
Japan is just ahead of the curve when it comes to problems related to arrested development. They’re not better at planning, they just experienced it earlier
TeaWithDani@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
Lots of people end up on welfare and in social housing under similar situations. We stigmatize those people so much that it never enters public discourse in the same way.
People who are unhoused tend to have even more severe difficulties resulting in that situation.
chiliedogg@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
The US used to have the Job Corps program…
TubularTittyFrog@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
you can do this own your own without the government. there are plenty of places like temp agencies that do this already.
TootTootComingThru@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
I wish my government had some social safety nets like some other countries do to help out people like this HAVE YOU EVEN HEARD OF SHITTY PRIVATE BUSINESSES THAT SORT OF KIND OF DO THAT BUT NOT ACTUALLY? GO OUTSIDE YOU MORON! Are you OK and if not would you like a hug?
TubularTittyFrog@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
because it works perfectly fine if you’re not a helpless moron, that’s why.
LH0ezVT@sh.itjust.works 2 weeks ago
Fine, I’ll bite the bait.
because it works perfectly fine if you’re not a helpless moron, that’s why.
Counter-point: lots of people are helpless morons at some point in their life. I certainly was. I was lucky enough to have family and friends and skills that were in demand at the time. Others are less fortunate. Fuck’em, I got mine, I guess?
lots of people start their careers through temp job training programs and become permanent hires.
Temp agencies are not there to help you, not even there to make the economy better or society fairer. They are there to fill temporary positions for as little money as possible, period. Sometimes, their and your interests overlap partly. Plus, they help avoid hiring people long-term. Fear of joblessness every few months is a great motivation to work more for less. I’ve seen it plenty of times, and while there are degrees of hell, all of them suck.
i have what they call ‘real life experience’ in these matters
Me too. I was on welfare for half a year and not having to worry about my immediate survival gave me the time I needed to hunt for a half-decent job and convince myself to go to college. Now, a decade later, I have an engineering master degree and get to work on some cool stuff. Without government support, I’d probably have jumped at the first shitty job I got and would be stuck there. What’s your life experience? Pulled yourself up by your bootstraps while walking uphill both ways?
clearly the ‘answer’ to problems like this is to daydream about a socialist/communist utopia and be angry it doesn’t exist and also wish violence upon those who point out to you that it’s never going to exist.
As someone from a not-yet-a-total-shithole country, those things exist over here, and while they are as bad at their job as one expects, at least they are there. A cynic public officer half-heartedly trying to get you to become a tax-paying citizen is leagues better than nothing. It’s not a day dream when it clearly exists outside of dystopian ex-first-world countries like the US. Everyone benefits if people get off the street and/or their couch and do something “useful”. I’m happily paying taxes that support welfare, education and coaching, and I’d much prefer it, both from an ethical and an economical point of view, if the government started properly collecting taxes from billionaires and big companies than go after that mystical welfare freeloader.
RamenJunkie@midwest.social 2 weeks ago
Private services are not the same.
eah@programming.dev 2 weeks ago
but you’d have to actually… look it up and leave your house to do any of this.
That’s the problem. The sort of person we’re talking about isn’t going to do this. What’s needed is an army of people incessantly knocking on doors offering to help.
TubularTittyFrog@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
they aren’t going to open the door either man.
you can’t help people who don’t want to help themselves.
though on lemmy people think a political revolution is going to like… magically fix people like this… but the only person who will is themselves.
echodot@feddit.uk 2 weeks ago
Which government are you talking about there’s more than one you know.
TubularTittyFrog@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
the illuminati
Canonical_Warlock@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 weeks ago
There’s also temp agencies. They’re shit and the jobs they give you will be shit but they’re pretty good at finding something for basically anyone who isn’t completely unemployable. Someone whose only issues are a lack of transportation, housing, and work history would still be considered a good get by most temp agencies.
Nalivai@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
Wait, you guys don’t have that? US I assume? Damn, does your government do anything?
Malyca@lemmy.zip 2 weeks ago
It kills brown people
Lushed_Lungfish@lemmy.ca 2 weeks ago
Oh, come on. It kills far more than just brown people.
Napster153@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
They kill poor white people too on occasion so it balances out.
ShinkanTrain@lemmy.ml 2 weeks ago
The conversion ratio is terrible. They need to start killing more white people fir the good of the economy.
TootTootComingThru@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
I don’t think the federal government has a program like this, but I went through unemployment after getting laid off last year in Massachusetts and they had resources to help you find careers and training/qualifications and whatnot. Some of the dumbest, lowest empathy people you encounter bitch about Communist Taxachusetts non stop but we have it pretty good here compared to some other places in the Union.
5318008@lemmy.ml 2 weeks ago
The tax revenue per capita in Massachusetts is about $9000. (source)
We should happily pay $9000 per year to not live in Oklahoma.
captainlezbian@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
The only thing our government actually does that’s uncontroversial is running a bunch of parks, and even those are understaffed
RamenJunkie@midwest.social 2 weeks ago
Governments are for Communists.
/s
RamRabbit@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
We do, there are plenty of programs to help you get a job.