That’s how it is stated in civilized countries. This is American bullshit. You wouldn’t get a serving size on something like oil either.
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Thorry@feddit.org 2 days ago
In civilized countries the nutrition facts need to be stated in both serving size and 100 grams. This makes it easier to compare products with different serving sizes and also prevents bullshit like this.
hOrni@lemmy.world 2 days ago
k0e3@lemmy.ca 2 days ago
Yes, that is what they said.
hOrni@lemmy.world 2 days ago
Yeah, You’re right,I misread, my bad.
k0e3@lemmy.ca 2 days ago
Wait, stop that. Now I look like a jerk.
Buffalox@lemmy.world 2 days ago
No it’s not, oil does not have a “serving size”.
CompactFlax@discuss.tchncs.de 2 days ago
There is a point to having both - or at least giving an idea of how much an item typically weighs. One cookie might be 200g or 50g; people may typically reach for 1-5 cookies, for example.
A misleading serving size (eg “per 1/4 cookie”) is indeed not helpful at all, but I don’t think it’s illegal.
protist@retrofed.com 2 days ago
I just have to disagree. On a product like this, if the nutrition facts for 100g are listed, then you’re going to have to do the math re: how much you’re actually going to use. Having it measured out in a realistic serving size makes more sense to me.
There’s also pretty much no issue comparing products, as products in the same category usually all have the same serving sizes.
Cooking spray just happens to be used so sparingly that its nutritional value when used appropriately is usually negligible
Thorry@feddit.org 2 days ago
Oh no! Imagine having to do extremely simple maths… It’s calculus, hardly maths at all.
The whole point is the “realistic serving size” is a myth. It’s like buying a bag of 30 sweets and having the serving size be 3 sweets. You know I’m going to eat the whole fucking bag in 1 go, so I would like to know the actual nutrition facts.
And like I said, usually both are on the packaging, but the 100 grams one is required by law.
_chris@lemmy.world 2 days ago
Sorry, most people in the US can’t divide. The majority stop retaining around subtraction, and that’s giving the benefit of the doubt.
I know people who whip out the calculator for 9+13.
portifornia@piefed.social 2 days ago
I’m from the US, if I could read, I bet this post would upset me! 😅
arrow74@lemmy.zip 1 day ago
It’s not even that the labels are sometimes cryptic. Like sure I have 400g of cheese, but how many grams is a single slice? This information is not included on the brand I buy, nor the number of slices.
So I either have to weigh a slice of cheese or count out the number of slices. Then do the math.
In the US it simply says 1 slice is x calories.
I won’t understand this backwards sense of pride in shitty labeling.
wolfpack86@lemmy.world 2 days ago
Op said BOTH. No math needed.
wonderingwanderer@sopuli.xyz 2 days ago
Is .25g a realistic serving size to you?
Lumisal@lemmy.world 2 days ago
Not for avocado oil.
Fentanyl though it’s probably too much.
False@lemmy.world 2 days ago
If it’s in the form of a spray, and I’m spraying it onto the cooking surface rather than the food, then yeah. I’d probably spray for like 2 seconds and only a fraction of that would actually end up on the food.
wonderingwanderer@sopuli.xyz 1 day ago
I’d probably spray for like 2 seconds
I’d hate to break it to you, but that’s already 8 servings according to the label…
BlackRoseAmongThorns@slrpnk.net 2 days ago
Going to do the math an a number that relates to 100g, as in is pretty much stated in percentage?
purplemonkeymad@programming.dev 2 days ago
I’ve told people that it’s a percentage but they have a hard time understanding that and insisted on doing it from the serving size still.
kungen@feddit.nu 1 day ago
then you’re going to have to do the math re: how much you’re actually going to use
Sure, you’re probably going to spray a couple seconds at the most, which would be like less than 30 kcal. Basically nothing that you’d really count, unless you’re on a super-strict diet.
But the problem is that it’s misleading. Uneducated shoppers might choose that brand specifically because “I’m on a diet”, instead of buying a cheaper non-spray version. And/or proceed to put a ton on their food, without realizing avocado oil is almost 900kcal/100g.
“usually all have the same” isn’t fully true either in my experience. Are you really going to eat just 1/3 of a candy bar? It says 100 calories in big letters, surely it’d be much healthier than the avocado oil bottle that says 120 calories per serving.
“Serving size” numbers are bullshit and should be banned.
gandalf_der_13te@feddit.org 1 day ago
the thing is that different people use different serving sizes. – written by somebody who pours lots of oil over salad.
daychilde@lemmy.world 1 day ago
then you’re going to have to do the math
Why? It’s listed in both, so you know a spray is close to zero. If you’re using more than a couple or few sprays, you’re doing it wrong, so what’s even a few sprays? 5 calories?
Your measuring inaccuracy on other ingredients is going to be WILDLY more than the calories from the oil. Baking and spray the baking sheet? When you measured your flour, did you get it to the nearest TENTH of a gram? Because a gram of flour is like 3.5 calories, so if you were off by a single gram - or your scale doesn’t even show decigrams, then the rounding error is likely more calories than the oil you use that adds to each ‘serving’ of the thing you’re making.
So this is extremely unimportant.
noxypaws@pawb.social 22 hours ago
the first time I saw a nutrition label like that was, I think, in Ireland. Absolutely blew my mind how staggeringly useful it was in comparing different foods since there’s that common quantity across all of them.
I really wish we had that in the US.
VibeSurgeon@piefed.social 1 day ago
Serving size is generally speaking complete bullshit regardless. Per 100g is sufficient
jacksilver@lemmy.world 1 day ago
Serving size has a lot of use cases, especially when looking at things individually packaged or in separate units (cookies for example).
Per 100g has fewer use cases in my mind as I’m not a scale and have no idea how to break down most products into 100g.
fushuan@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 day ago
You do the other way around, you see the total weight of the thing, you guesstimate how much you are gonna eat and you do the math. Half of 500g is 250, so x2.5 whatever is on the 100g nutritional panel.
It’s not about when you would use the per 100g it’s about 100g being easy to be transformed into other units so you get an easy multiplier you can apply to the values.
LongDickJonsson@lemmy.world 23 hours ago
I always used the 100g as percentage since the rest of the nutrients is also listed as g. So if there is 9g of protein per 100g, then i can just make an easy approximation for whatever the serving is.
despoticruin@lemmy.zip 1 day ago
If you are American it’s about 4oz, and if you want a visual with most foods that is roughly a cubic inch of food. It’s not exact but it’s close enough to understand when applied to stuff like oil and butter alongside cotton candy or dry crackers where the densities and amounts used dramatically differ.
turtlesareneat@piefed.ca 1 day ago
So to hit my macros tonight I can treat myself to 7 cubic inches of pie. Got it.
starman2112@sh.itjust.works 13 hours ago
The other day I bought a cookie that was 200 calories per serving, with a serving size being half a cookie lmfao