Comment on Why does it feel like most art museums are for adults and most science museums are for kids?

slazer2au@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

• Hettyc_Tracyn@lemmy.zip ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  Idk, that seems like that’d be interesting…

  I am Autistic though

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  • CapuccinoCoretto@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    By a show of hands, how many here are autistic? Upvote = Yes, Downvote =No.

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    • GreenBeard@lemmy.ca ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      Well, statistically the individuals most likely to frequent an alternative social media platform are those with a) the technical proficiency to do so, b) Weak social anchoring to the network effects of mainstream platforms, and/or b) people whose past social interactions have led them to no longer have access to those platforms, ergo by self-selection bias there’s a high probability of finding other high functioning individuals on the spectrum on this platform. Lemmy/Piefed’s primary use case is basically socially-awkward-networking.

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      • wonderingwanderer@sopuli.xyz ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        Is that why I seem to fit in so well here? I was just beginning to think I finally learned how to be normal…

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    • blarghly@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      Upvote = Yes, Downvote = Yes, but in denial

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    • Rhynoplaz@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      What if you aren’t convinced one way or the other?

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      • slazer2au@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        Or diagnosed?

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      • NannerBanner@literature.cafe ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        They can upvote your comment! It’s branching binaries, all the way down, until we reach enough possibilities!!

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    • SaveTheTuaHawk@lemmy.ca ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      Better question: how many have declared themselves autistic or even understand the DSM definition?

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      • CapuccinoCoretto@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        Is it fashionable? Or just more common than we think?

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  • cynar@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    So are a lot of scientists.

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  • xSikes@feddit.online ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    Ditto

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• cattywampas@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  Relevant xkcd

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  • slazer2au@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    Pretty much.

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• marcos@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  There’s nothing dull about seeing a spectrograph working.

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  • treadful@lemmy.zip ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

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    Watching a beige box seems kind of dull.

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    • mycodesucks@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      Did scientists figure out how to keep the beige box from turning into a yellow box?

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      • spizzat2@lemmy.zip ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        Don’t expose it to UV or excessive heat.

        Also, the process is somewhat reversible: Retrobright

        However:

        The long-term effectiveness of these techniques is unclear. Some have discovered the yellowing reappears, and there are concerns that the process weakens and only bleaches the already damaged plastic.

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    • anton@lemmy.blahaj.zone ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

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      I stood inside the grey box where the magic happens. It was not dull because there was a physicists explaining everything.
      Image of electron storage ring BESSY II

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      • treadful@lemmy.zip ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        That’s a big box.

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    • marcos@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      Make the box transparent.

      But seriously, all of those have older versions that don’t work as well but look absolutely cool.

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      • mycodesucks@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        If you’re gonna make it transparent, make it out of this:

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• ch00f@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

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  • LurkingLuddite@piefed.social ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    Just like most any difficult work that results mostly in knowledge, it takes self-satisfaction to get the “rewarding” part.

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• Cethin@lemmy.zip ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  I somewhat agree, that looking purely at the data would be boring, especially when it’s on a topic too complex to understand. However, I think science content creators prove it doesn’t have to be boring. However, they’re usually making content on specific topics. A science museum is trying to touch everything.

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• flabberjabber@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  I find that the hierarchy of evidence combined with the ability to critique research is the foundation upon which sits pretty much all of my opinions. It’s a shame kids aren’t taught this from a young age; it would make manipulating them as adults so much harder.

  Once you realise the strength of the peer review process, you realise that most peoples opinions dont actually matter: we have strong research on that.

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  • slazer2au@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    Once you realise the strength of the peer review process, you realise that most peoples opinions dont actually matter: we have strong research on that.

    We also have research on people ignoring peer reviewed data in favour of random facts from random sources.

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    • kindnesskills@literature.cafe ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      We also have research on people ignoring peer reviewed data in favour of random facts from random sources.

      Says who?

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      • slazer2au@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        Any study with a placebo or nocebo element.

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    • flabberjabber@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      Do we have data on people who understand the significance of peer reviewed research ignoring that research despite the understanding?

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  • AskewLord@piefed.social ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    kids aren’t taught that at a young age because they can’t grasp it at a young age.

    and frankly, most adults can’t either. it’s too abstract for them.

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    • flabberjabber@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      But there’s a third option. There’s a difference between complete absence of this topic in the curriculum, and simplified versions of it that increase in difficulty with capability. Mirroring other stages of educational development.

      At the moment there’s a complete absence. At least in any country I’m aware of. Until late high school level which is way too late.

      Young kds understand hierarchies. Social hierarchies start to form on the first day of kindergarten.

      Teaching an 8 year old that science research sits at the top of a pyramid and newspapers and TV sitd at the bottom, would be easy to grasp. There’s nothing stopping us removing the detail and teaching a simplified structure that can then be built upon in subsequent years.

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      • AskewLord@piefed.social ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        Teaching an 8 year old that science research sits at the top of a pyramid and newspapers and TV sitd at the bottom, would be easy to grasp.

        you have never been around children, have you?

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• Soggy@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  Nah, astronomical spectroscopy is cool as hell and it’s really easy to have simplified examples you can fiddle with. At its most basic you’re using a prism to divide the sun’s light and measuring the visible bands. (This is pretty much how infrared light was discovered in 1800!)

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