Steam:
realitaetsverlust@piefed.zip 21 hours ago
One of the most accurate descriptions of this entire beef.
Steam does nothing and just keeps winning.
aeronmelon@lemmy.world 21 hours ago
REDACTED@infosec.pub 2 hours ago
Seriously, we need more companies doing nothing and taking 30% fee, becoming super rich corporations making more money than any other company per employee, while devs wonder if they’ll break even
red_tomato@lemmy.world 20 hours ago
Valve is winning because they don’t enshittify
brachiosaurus@mander.xyz 16 hours ago
Valve is winning because the average gamer doesn’t care much about owning his videogames.
UnspecificGravity@piefed.social 19 hours ago
Steam is a great example of how a privately held company can out compete publicly traded and venture capital funded corps.
Honytawk@discuss.tchncs.de 3 hours ago
You mean like those paid mods they were trying to introduce together with Bethesda?
Valve does not always win. Users are just more tolerant towards Valve than any other platform because of the cheap games they can buy during a sale. Nothing more.
Skullgrid@lemmy.world 21 hours ago
it doesn’t just do nothing, it sticks to its core idea : we can’t do as much as the community can when it comes to making games, how do we maximise the community’s possible output?
People love to shit on valve working on lootboxes, but I was there to see how it developed. It was there as part of a way of getting money back to the people making stuff, which is why a shitload of the TF2 hats came from the community and steam workshop. The system came from a left wing greek economist, before , you know, he BECAME Minister of Finance for greece (for half a year)
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yanis_Varoufakis
This is why they have steam OS, steam greenlight, SFM, etc etc.
Valve doesn’t make games anymore, because they know hobbyists can make shitloads of more games than them, they need a platform to shove them into.
Also, the other goal is to improve and extend the PC gaming space, which is why they are working on SteamOS, the deck, and all the other shit they are working on. Because of the work they put into making steam work to make game distrobution better than piracy (LITERALLY said by Gabe), PC releases became synonymous with “Steam”, which is why whenever you have a game announcement, you get “New game : Available on (XboxLogo : PS5Logo : SteamLogo)”
Valve is doing stuff. Just not, you know, making HL3 or nothing.
hayvan@piefed.world 20 hours ago
In a service business, if you do things right, people think you’re doing nothing.
P1k1e@lemmy.world 20 hours ago
God?
AnUnusualRelic@lemmy.world 20 hours ago
TIL a greek minister of finance is responsible for TF2 hats. Fucking wild.
Goodeye8@piefed.social 18 hours ago
I might be misremembering the timeline but I think he was brought on board after the market was created because Valve started to see the same economic patterns (and issues) Varoufakis had talked about. He was brought in to make sure the skin economy would have a solid foundation. So he isn’t really responsible for TF2 hats. CS skins however he could be considered responsible.
Zanshi@lemmy.world 2 hours ago
I knew I know the name from somewhere, so I checked on my Kobo. He also wrote Technofeudalism
AnUnusualRelic@lemmy.world 18 hours ago
Oh, right. Well, I’m editing his Wikipedia page in that case.
AnyOldName3@lemmy.world 19 hours ago
I’m baffled that I didn’t already know that lootboxes were created by the husband of the woman that the Pulp hit Common People was most likely written about.
Skullgrid@lemmy.world 18 hours ago
I… what?
Bane_Killgrind@lemmy.dbzer0.com 18 hours ago
There’s a song “common people” performed by a band called “pulp” you philistine, the song is about a real person
agamemnonymous@sh.itjust.works 19 hours ago
The William Shatner song?
brachiosaurus@mander.xyz 16 hours ago
Valve is a for profit company, one of their main goals is to make money and they work daily to do that. There are people at Valve who work 8h a day on how to boost profits.
I think you are confusing lootboxes with the items market which was there mainly to compensate the free to play model. If you were there i hope you remember too no DRMs and no third party software launchers to run games.
They have steam OS because microsoft become one of their competitors
Jakeroxs@sh.itjust.works 2 hours ago
“They have steam OS because microsoft become one of their competitors” Lmfao riiigght like Microsoft just got into the video game selling business, jfc.
Valve makes steamOS because windows fucking sucks and there needs to be an alternative OS for running game without a bunch of garbage like Windows or a completely locked down OS like Macs that they could use on their hardware.
brachiosaurus@mander.xyz 39 minutes ago
Steam is part of the garbage, you don’t really need a third party launcher to run a software.
In the past years microsoft made big and aggressive acquisitions in the videogames industry like bethesda and blizzard. The new xbox portable which is a direct competitor to the steam deck doesn’t have cd anymore, the only way to get games is through microsoft store.
Mozingo@lemmy.world 20 hours ago
We don’t have Steam Greenlight anymore, but otherwise 100% agree.
kn33@lemmy.world 20 hours ago
Deadlock would like a word with you.
Skullgrid@lemmy.world 20 hours ago
oh, what was the release date for deadlock?
Yes, valve do make some games, for special occasions. They just aren’t making genre defining single player games like some of us want them to… except for HL:A , but who has the money to get that VR setup and spare room to put it in?
To be fair to them, valve have released or kept updating several games recently, CS2 , DOTA2, HL:A, Artifact, and as you mentioned, Deadlock.
It’s just that the stereotypical person that liked Half Life 1, the game, aren’t being targeted as much by valve, and it’s because they want to save that kind of work for pushing new things they develop, which for now, is more hardware or games as a service oriented.