But this is someone complaining about an English word and how it is pronounced. Yes, it comes from another language. That is the entire reason English has a lot of examples like this.
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arandomthought@sh.itjust.works 3 weeks ago
English is the LAST language that gets to complain about how you pronounce stuff. Ever read an english word that you have’nt heard before? You’re pronouncing it wrong.
Korhaka@sopuli.xyz 3 weeks ago
WhiskyTangoFoxtrot@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
You can work it out through tough thorough thought, though.
Zink@programming.dev 3 weeks ago
Seriously!
We have a third grader, and he’s pretty good at reading. Recently he has been arguing with us about the pronunciation of some new words from his homework.
The problem is, his arguments are sound! He’s accurately following the rules he learned for sounding out words.
When this has come up in the past, all I’ve been able to do is acknowledge his argument and explain to him how English has all kinds of weird rules and exceptions, and it’s the kind of thing you remember with experience using the words. Like, there is no new rule to learn, and you don’t have to freak out about remembering all these exceptions. It will just come with time. (Because we all know there’s nothing that kids like more than olds telling them to just wait or give it time, lol)
robocall@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
“Tough” should be written as “tuff”
Brainsploosh@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
Don’t worry, with the current education policies it will be, soon.
dethedrus@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 weeks ago
I imagine they’d rather go further back down the literacy tree to where only the priesthood and nobility could read.
Lucky us, they’re one in the same now!
samus12345@sh.itjust.works 3 weeks ago
lividweasel@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
robocall@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
that was a fun fact! but I think it’s ok if one word has multiple meanings
GreenShimada@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
Of all people, Gallagher made the point in the 80s. I think George Carlin also did a set about English words once.
rustydrd@sh.itjust.works 3 weeks ago
English is basically three languages stacked on top of each other wearing a trench coat
Aljernon@lemmy.today 3 weeks ago
Even if you have heard an English word before, you’re probably still pronouncing it wrong
rumba@lemmy.zip 3 weeks ago
English is not the last language that should complain; unfortunately, 54% of the US population has a literacy level below that of a 6th-grade student.
FishFace@piefed.social 3 weeks ago
But the point is that the person complaining isn’t complaining about the French, but about some imagined English dude who picked the pronunciation of rendezvous for fun
arandomthought@sh.itjust.works 3 weeks ago
Fair enough. Then it must have been the same dude who decided all the other words with random pronounciations. If you find them, tell them to go fuck themself.
FishFace@piefed.social 3 weeks ago
I sure will!
AstaKask@lemmy.cafe 3 weeks ago
The UK should do a major spelling reform and troll the shit out of the U.S and their then “archaic” English.
KSPAtlas@sopuli.xyz 3 weeks ago
Ðat wúd bē sō sili, hüever it wúd absolútli rúin ŪK-ŪS komūnikāshon
Sum myt sā ðat’s a gúd þing ðō
zerofk@lemmy.zip 3 weeks ago
That looks unironically great. Relatively easy to read and as far as I could tell, internally consistent. Two things current English spelling lacks.
KSPAtlas@sopuli.xyz 3 weeks ago
I’ve worked on it as a personal writing system for probably like a year or so now
Y’v werkt on it az a personal ryting sistem for probabli lyk a jēr or sō nü
faintwhenfree@lemmus.org 3 weeks ago
UK is the worst, US makes sense at least to some degree.
Gloucestershire - pronounced glostershire Warwick - pronounced warrick And there like hundreds of these weird ones.
arudesalad@piefed.ca 3 weeks ago
Place names are cheating. Almost all of them come from old/other languages that have very little resemblance to modern english.
undefined@lemmy.hogru.ch 3 weeks ago
The UK accent is actually more “modern” than the US one because the US one is more aligned with the accent imported around the time of colonialism.
Viking_Hippie@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 weeks ago
Which one of the dozens if not hundreds of regional and culturally originated dialects and accents do you mean?
That’s not how it works.
Like the Spanish- French- and Portuguese-speaking parts of the Americas, American English may have developed from an earlier form of English, but It has since gone through its own parallel evolution, making it just as “modern” as British English.
FishFace@piefed.social 3 weeks ago
The US one evolved as well, just preserved rhoticity which is a major feature. There’s no “UK accent” (nor “us accent") either - West country accents for example are still rhotic
samus12345@sh.itjust.works 3 weeks ago
Good thing, too, pirates would sound silly saying, “Ahhhhh, shivah me timbahs!”
tigeruppercut@lemmy.zip 3 weeks ago
There is an accent called General American (GenAm), however.
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/General_American_English?us…
Rothe@piefed.social 3 weeks ago
No, that is garbled nonsense based on the misunderstanding of a factoid.