Comment on Typical monopoly people

arandomthought@sh.itjust.works ⁨17⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

• rumba@lemmy.zip ⁨3⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

  English is not the last language that should complain; unfortunately, 54% of the US population has a literacy level below that of a 6th-grade student.

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• Zink@programming.dev ⁨3⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

  Seriously!

  We have a third grader, and he’s pretty good at reading. Recently he has been arguing with us about the pronunciation of some new words from his homework.

  The problem is, his arguments are sound! He’s accurately following the rules he learned for sounding out words.

  When this has come up in the past, all I’ve been able to do is acknowledge his argument and explain to him how English has all kinds of weird rules and exceptions, and it’s the kind of thing you remember with experience using the words. Like, there is no new rule to learn, and you don’t have to freak out about remembering all these exceptions. It will just come with time. (Because we all know there’s nothing that kids like more than olds telling them to just wait or give it time, lol)

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• AstaKask@lemmy.cafe ⁨17⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

  The UK should do a major spelling reform and troll the shit out of the U.S and their then “archaic” English.

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  • KSPAtlas@sopuli.xyz ⁨8⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    Ðat wúd bē sō sili, hüever it wúd absolútli rúin ŪK-ŪS komūnikāshon

    Sum myt sā ðat’s a gúd þing ðō

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    • zerofk@lemmy.zip ⁨6⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      That looks unironically great. Relatively easy to read and as far as I could tell, internally consistent. Two things current English spelling lacks.

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      • KSPAtlas@sopuli.xyz ⁨1⁩ ⁨hour⁩ ago

        I’ve worked on it as a personal writing system for probably like a year or so now

        Y’v werkt on it az a personal ryting sistem for probabli lyk a jēr or sō nü

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  • faintwhenfree@lemmus.org ⁨16⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    UK is the worst, US makes sense at least to some degree.

    Gloucestershire - pronounced glostershire Warwick - pronounced warrick And there like hundreds of these weird ones.

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    • arudesalad@piefed.ca ⁨16⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      Place names are cheating. Almost all of them come from old/other languages that have very little resemblance to modern english.

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  • undefined@lemmy.hogru.ch ⁨16⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    The UK accent is actually more “modern” than the US one because the US one is more aligned with the accent imported around the time of colonialism.

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    • Viking_Hippie@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨16⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      The UK accent

      Which one of the dozens if not hundreds of regional and culturally originated dialects and accents do you mean?

      actually more modern than that of the US because the US imported the UK one around the time of colonization

      That’s not how it works.

      Like the Spanish- French- and Portuguese-speaking parts of the Americas, American English may have developed from an earlier form of English, but It has since gone through its own parallel evolution, making it just as “modern” as British English.

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    • FishFace@piefed.social ⁨16⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      The US one evolved as well, just preserved rhoticity which is a major feature. There’s no “UK accent” (nor “us accent") either - West country accents for example are still rhotic

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      • samus12345@sh.itjust.works ⁨2⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

        West country accents for example are still rhotic

        Good thing, too, pirates would sound silly saying, “Ahhhhh, shivah me timbahs!”

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      • tigeruppercut@lemmy.zip ⁨13⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

        There’s no “UK accent” (nor “us accent”)

        There is an accent called General American (GenAm), however.

        en.wikipedia.org/wiki/General_American_English?us…

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    • Rothe@piefed.social ⁨16⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      No, that is garbled nonsense based on the misunderstanding of a factoid.

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• rustydrd@sh.itjust.works ⁨6⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

  English is basically three languages stacked on top of each other wearing a trench coat

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• WhiskyTangoFoxtrot@lemmy.world ⁨8⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

  You can work it out through tough thorough thought, though.

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• Korhaka@sopuli.xyz ⁨14⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

  But this is someone complaining about an English word and how it is pronounced. Yes, it comes from another language. That is the entire reason English has a lot of examples like this.

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• robocall@lemmy.world ⁨15⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

  “Tough” should be written as “tuff”

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  • samus12345@sh.itjust.works ⁨2⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    Image

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  • Brainsploosh@lemmy.world ⁨13⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    Don’t worry, with the current education policies it will be, soon.

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    • dethedrus@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨9⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      I imagine they’d rather go further back down the literacy tree to where only the priesthood and nobility could read.

      Lucky us, they’re one in the same now!

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  • lividweasel@lemmy.world ⁨10⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    But tuff is already something else.

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    • robocall@lemmy.world ⁨5⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      that was a fun fact! but I think it’s ok if one word has multiple meanings

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  • TrickDacy@lemmy.world ⁨13⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    No

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    • protogen420@lemmy.blahaj.zone ⁨11⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      yes

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• Aljernon@lemmy.today ⁨8⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

  Even if you have heard an English word before, you’re probably still pronouncing it wrong

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• GreenShimada@lemmy.world ⁨16⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

  Of all people, Gallagher made the point in the 80s. I think George Carlin also did a set about English words once.

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• FishFace@piefed.social ⁨16⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

  But the point is that the person complaining isn’t complaining about the French, but about some imagined English dude who picked the pronunciation of rendezvous for fun

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  • arandomthought@sh.itjust.works ⁨15⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    Fair enough. Then it must have been the same dude who decided all the other words with random pronounciations. If you find them, tell them to go fuck themself.

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    • FishFace@piefed.social ⁨14⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      I sure will!

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