Why’d you give money to a terf?
Comment on Warner Bros. Cancels Planned ‘Hogwarts Legacy’ Game Expansion
scrubbles@poptalk.scrubbles.tech 2 days ago
WHY?! WHY ARE THEY BEING SO STUPID WITH HOGWARTS?!
They built this whole world into the game and did NOTHING with it! It’s empty! Hogwarts the settings is perfect! The castle was fun to walk around in, to explore! I 100%'d the game because I loved exploring in it! Then they did nothing else to the game.
The game oversold all expectations! People just loved shelling out money for it! Then WB just dropped it.
I see things bitching every day about how their game studios don’t make enough movie and then they shit the bed here by just letting that game sit here!
If they’re actually worried about money why are they not cranking out DLC every 4-6 months?! People would buy it! They can’t bitch and moan that games don’t make money and then they just flip the off switch on their freaking money printer.
Thanks. That was cathartic.
LeninsOvaries@lemmy.cafe 2 days ago
FozzyOsbourne@lemm.ee 2 days ago
Ever looked at an advert? Bought a computer? Eaten food produced by a multinational chain like Nestlé? Almost every action you take will involve generating money for an absolute shit. It’s fine (even encouraged) to let people who might not know that Rowing is a horrible bigot, but don’t have a go at someone for enjoying a fucking video game.
dota__2@lemmy.world 2 days ago
nah, they asked a question. it’s a loaded question for sure, but they asked a simple question. stop enabling.
FozzyOsbourne@lemm.ee 2 days ago
stop enabling
What does this even mean?
Taco2112@lemmy.world 1 day ago
How? There are no good corporations. We are all enablers. There is no conscious consumption under capitalism.
Tywele@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 day ago
That’s not an excuse to not even try.
shortrounddev@lemmy.world 1 day ago
Because I’m tired of being told what to be outraged about
LeninsOvaries@lemmy.cafe 1 day ago
You’re supposed to be able to figure it out yourself. People wouldn’t have to tell you these things if you were smarter.
gamermanh@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 day ago
My trans friends purchased the game, too. One of them specifically because of the well-done trans character, they said “I want to support whoever wrote that character into the game”
Almost like projects with 100s of people working on them are more complicated than “one person gets a tiny share of each purchase so it’s completely bad”
shortrounddev@lemmy.world 1 day ago
Shut up lmao
JK_Flip_Flop@lemmy.world 2 days ago
Not OP but I bought it for my sister who is notoriously impossible to buy birthday presents for because she explicitly requested something for once, then I played it through Steam family sharing to deny at least one sale of the game.
inb4_FoundTheVegan@lemmy.world 2 days ago
I’m suprised and a lil’ confused why you would share this story in response. Respectfully, it feels like you’re shifting blame. Like, okay, sure, It’s your sister’s birthdays fault you gave money to a terf.
I mean, you do you but if the trans persecution isn’t a deal breaker when it comes to something so basic as media choices. Then, whatever. Own it.
JK_Flip_Flop@lemmy.world 2 days ago
Totally valid criticism, I absolutely agree with you. Times are tough for trans folk and giving money to transphobes is not helping that.
Looking back on it, I wouldn’t buy it having seen how far off the deep end she has gone. I admit I dismissed her at the time as just a nutjob on Twitter but she’s now proved to me that she is a bigot beyond reproach.
I also find myself in a better educated position than I was at that time. I have more LGBTQ friends and family than ever and I’m challenging anti-trans behaviour in others when I spot it.
Rentlar@lemmy.ca 2 days ago
Regarding your confusion and surprise, the person you replied to merely gave their reason why they bought it and supported a transphobe, and it was because this person’s sister requested that game specifically.
I know the question posed was mostly rhetorical in nature. But I’m not sure why you are questioning why someone is answering the question, and I’m not sure what kind of satisfactory answer you could get from anyone who had purchased the game (and supported a transphobe, yes, which I haven’t).
The rest of your comment is a legit response, but I’m only pushing back on the first sentence of your reply. Or even moving that sentence to the back of your comment to make it less charged. If someone’s going to answer a loaded question, let them, but get to the point about how misguided they are with their justification before you question the answer. That would likely make for a more constructive discussion. Unless you think that these answers are unhelpful in the first place, that we’re better off not hearing why people have done transphobic things with different intentions, and we should refuse to give them space to reflect, learn, then own up to their transgressions if they don’t come right out of the gate to apologize. Then sure, ignore what I said.
slaacaa@lemmy.world 2 days ago
They also closed Monolith, a great studio behind e.g. FEAR amd Shadow of Mordor games. They are making all the wrong decisions, and then will wonder why they have lost to competitors.
scrubbles@poptalk.scrubbles.tech 2 days ago
I loved shadow of mordor/war, and always wondered why they didn’t make another. However I also guess better to go out early before it’s done to death
eRac@lemmings.world 1 day ago
They didn’t make another because they were forced to make a game that was Wonder Woman and live service. How does that work? Clearly they didn’t know either since they spun their wheels for like seven years, lost all their old staff, and then got shut down.
scrubbles@poptalk.scrubbles.tech 1 day ago
Yeah why would they keep making games that were successful when instead they could make games that no one asked for
tigeruppercut@lemmy.zip 1 day ago
I liked SoM but War felt like a worse dlc
Notorious_handholder@lemmy.world 2 days ago
It’s genuinely baffling watching WB just make like, every wrong decision. Their business is losing money and every time a project that receives praise or interest is announced/released that is nearly guaranteed to make them lots of money.They just don’t go through with it. Or they do some work on it then can it.
It’s like, even out of touch executives at other large companies have enough feelers to find out generally what people are enjoying. Then with all their money they throw something in that general direction and something eventually sticks.
With WB though it’s like, nothing is working. The things that do stick don’t make as much as they thought. And the things that they don’t think will make money do make money, often more than they thought… And then they just always find a way to either piss off everyone, sour and sabotage the future projects, or just don’t do anything with it.
It’s just so fucking weird. Like I don’t even enjoy or partake in most of the stuff WB puts out. But sitting on the sidelines and just watching it all unfold makes me question what drugs the leaders at the company are on…
scrubbles@poptalk.scrubbles.tech 2 days ago
I’m glad I’m not the only one genuinely confused by this. Are they shorting their own company? What is going on?
I mean, a Gollum game?
Kangy@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 day ago
You could replace every mention of “WB” in there with “Bungie” and it would still be true
p03locke@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 day ago
It’s been especially bad over the last year. WB is in freefall at this point.
It seems it would be pretty easy to blame this on David Zaslav, but the games department specifically has been fucking up like never before: Mortal Kombat, Multiversus, Gollum, Kill the Justice League. Just name a WB game that came out, and it’s been an abysmal failure, with similar games from other studios doing much much better.
TheTechnician27@lemmy.world 2 days ago
Is someone upset they can’t fork over more money to the transphobic piece of shit and the media conglomerate megacorp?
dev_null@lemmy.ml 2 days ago
Seeing how the game prominently features trans characters and that Rowling wasn’t involved in making it, it probably doesn’t bother many people.
3xBork@lemmy.world 1 day ago
Rowling has enough money to donate to shitty politics for the rest of her life ten times over.
Attempts to “not support her” are about 3 decades too late and entirely irrelevant at this point beyond making people feel good about themselves.
We’re talking about the world’s first and only writer to become a billionaire with her books here.
dota__2@lemmy.world 2 days ago
hogwarts is not the place to do that then. there are plenty of other queer games out there to support queer game dev. instead of pretending that giving money to rowling is doing anything to support trans people.
dev_null@lemmy.ml 2 days ago
It would be ridiculous to pretend so. Giving money to trans-supportive games absolutely does though.
surewhynotlem@lemmy.world 2 days ago
Right message. Wrong tone. Assuming you want people to fork less money to the transphobic piece of shit.
You do want that, right?
TheTechnician27@lemmy.world 2 days ago
Oh shit, the tone police are here. I’m not under the impression the person I’m responding to is going to change their behavior after this has already been widely talked about to death for years, and so I really don’t care what tone I use. This person is helping make the lives of real, actual, perfectly innocent trans people (and especially the lives of trans women) hell because they a) don’t care about those people or somehow more pathetically b) do can’t restrain themselves from buying a children’s toy to that end.
surewhynotlem@lemmy.world 2 days ago
I get it. Venting online is way cheaper than therapy and twice as effective.
dota__2@lemmy.world 2 days ago
coddling the oblivious to enable the bigots has not been a winning strategy on any front if you simply look around.
surewhynotlem@lemmy.world 2 days ago
I imagine, and I’m no English expert, that there’s a line somewhere between coddling and mindless rant.
Devmapall@lemm.ee 2 days ago
For real.
They could’ve been making GTA levels of money. Soooo many people were able to overlook the terribleness of the author just to be able to be in the Harry Potter world.
dota__2@lemmy.world 2 days ago
(please do not support TERF content, pirate it if you really want to nostalgia bait yourself)
because dlc is not something you just “do”. it’s something of a scale and complexity that needs to be planned out from the go. If the dev team is allowed to cook you might get an Assassin’s creed 2 situation. but this company will almost certainly not allow that to happen.
(please do not support TERF content, pirate it if you really want to nostalgia bait yourself)
jacksilver@lemmy.world 2 days ago
They’re still moving forward with the sequel (at least according to the article), so if I had to guess they figured they missed the boat with the expansion and want to focus on the sequel instead.
scrubbles@poptalk.scrubbles.tech 2 days ago
Which is fine, but I have no idea why they’re just throwing everything they have in the trash. They built the whole world and just sat on it. Expansions could make them so much money to fund the next game in the short term
jacksilver@lemmy.world 2 days ago
Yeah, I was surprised given the success that they didn’t even spit out something to keep people engaged with the game. Seemed like even a small content update or doc would have pulled people in.
Hopefully it just means the follow-up will be even better.
scrubbles@poptalk.scrubbles.tech 2 days ago
Seriously they could have done sims level DLC and people could have just kept buying. New mounts, small new areas, bits of story here and there, a new class
MeekerThanBeaker@lemmy.world 2 days ago
They very well could be implementing that stuff into the sequel.
Ledericas@lemm.ee 2 days ago
Probably more expensive than they realize and too much work
scrubbles@poptalk.scrubbles.tech 2 days ago
Then they really are horrible at gaming because there are millions of people chomping at the bit to pay any amount for dlc to that game
ieightpi@lemmy.world 2 days ago
My wife has been really enjoying the game
rickyrigatoni@lemm.ee 2 days ago
Well you see the reason for this is simply that WB is stupid.
Godort@lemm.ee 2 days ago
WB doesn’t seem to know how to release any media post 2010.
They keep trying to shoehorn IP into trends, years after market saturation to try and capture nostalgia, and then wonder why they didn’t meet sales targets. See MK1, Space Jam 2, or anything related to HP or LotR.
The other thing they do is when they do have an interesting or original idea with the IP, the executive team seems too risk averse to put any capital behind it. See the two new Loony Tunes movies, one was in theaters for less than a week and the other was scrapped entirely for a tax writeoff.
Squizzy@lemmy.world 2 days ago
Mk sucks now, soulless
LandedGentry@lemmy.zip 2 days ago
Arbiter@lemmy.world 2 days ago
We know. She sucks.
Squizzy@lemmy.world 1 day ago
Yeah fuck her, I got it secondhand
IncogCyberspaceUser@lemmy.world 1 day ago
What’s MK1?
Godort@lemm.ee 1 day ago
Mortal Kombat 1