Comment on Is there any non-zero possibility Musk was not doing a Hitler Salute?

xmunk@sh.itjust.works ⁨1⁩ ⁨week⁩ ago

• spizzat2@lemm.ee ⁨1⁩ ⁨week⁩ ago

  If you accidentally do a nazi salute and then someone says “Hey bro, you really shouldn’t do a nazi salute”

  I like to think about how a person like that would react if they accidentally “acted gay”. Can you imagine how much they would trip over themselves trying to make sure people knew it was a mistake?

  If you don’t have that level of response to being called a Nazi, you’re probably a Nazi.

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  • NielsBohron@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨week⁩ ago

    And if they work that hard to make sure everyone knows they’re not gay, then bonus! You also found out that they’re homophobic.

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    • Lost_My_Mind@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨week⁩ ago

      No, I don’t agree with this at all.

      I grew up in the 90s when being gay was “bad” (societys words, not mine). I live in Cleveland, but a suburb of Cleveland is Lakewood. San Fransisco is Americas gayest city. Lakewood is (was?) Americas second gayest city (at least in the 90s it was).

      I lived right on the Lakewood border. About 7 streets away. And just to give an idea of how anti-gay the 90s were, I can remember a guy getting handcuffed to a chain link fence, and beaten by 4 men with bats. Beaten to literal death. With his dead body lay prone and still handcuffed from 2:30am until 7am on a busy street until a mother called the police as she walked her 5 year old to school (this was 2 blocks from an elementary school)

      That’s the environment I grew up in. People CONSTANTLY accused me of being gay. I’m not. I never have been gay. But I grew up being taught you better make sure you deny it. If nothing else, so people don’t beat you.

      Now I realize, we no longer live in that social environment. But I also assume Jews in Europe in the 1960s still would downplay the fact they were Jewish. Sure, the nazis weren’t a thing anymore, but if you’d seen the holocaust you wouldn’t take chances either.

      Plus, being a teenager in the 90s, I thought “If the girls think I’m gay, I’ll never get laid…” which was true. They still thought I was gay, and I didn’t get to date until after high school.

      And thats how I stay today. I have enough of an uphill battle to dating. I don’t need women disqualifying me for something that isn’t true.

      Now if YOU wanna be gay, go ahead. I always think if more guys are gay, that makes things easier for me.

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      • dustyData@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨week⁩ ago

        This is the weirdest homophobic and also misogynistic take I’ve read. You took “I’ve got nothing against the gaus, but…” to a new deranged level.

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      • NielsBohron@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨week⁩ ago

        I’m not saying that just because someone says you’re gay, you can’t correct them without being homophobic. I’m saying that the people that people that go out of their way to make sure everyone knows they’re not gay, who get offended at the idea of being mistaken for gay are acting homophobic.

        I grew up in approximately the same era as you in a very conservative area, and yeah, there was a lot of homophobic behavior and slurs. But if someone asked if I was gay in this day and age, I think anything more than a quick correction is over-reacting.

        But hey, that’s just my opinion; you’re welcome to yours. Have a good day friend!

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      • secretlyaddictedtolinux@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨week⁩ ago

        Based on your persuasive arguments, ive decided to be gay.

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  • gravitas_deficiency@sh.itjust.works ⁨1⁩ ⁨week⁩ ago

    Point of order. He didn’t do a Nazi salute. He did two, within five seconds, on national television, at the inauguration.

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    • Sir_Kevin@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨1⁩ ⁨week⁩ ago

      You would think the crowd of people would have stepped in at that point but clearly they’re all in as well.

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  • prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone ⁨1⁩ ⁨week⁩ ago

    Great comparison.

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• I_Miss_Daniel@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨week⁩ ago

  First time in years I’ve seen the ‘therefor’ three dots!

  ∴ - copying to notes as I don’t think it’s available on Android keyboards.

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  • Pika@sh.itjust.works ⁨1⁩ ⁨week⁩ ago

    I didn’t even know it existed in the first place. I’m going to show my grandfather and see if he’s seen it before. I expect he has since he’s a retired english/history teacher

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    • I_Miss_Daniel@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨week⁩ ago

      I remember it from ‘introductory formal logic’ back in my (failed) uni days.

      It kinda had a language of its own, similar to how mathematics has < > etc

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  • xmunk@sh.itjust.works ⁨1⁩ ⁨week⁩ ago

    I always just search the web for “<symbol> unicode” when I need something obscure. Then again I’m old ;_;

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• Sir_Kevin@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨1⁩ ⁨week⁩ ago

  It’s crazy to me that people are denying it.

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• hisao@ani.social ⁨1⁩ ⁨week⁩ ago

  Elon didn’t immediately say “No, I didn’t do the nazi thing.”

  He did though: x.com/elonmusk/status/1881746484229763524 My hypothesis: he practiced this and realized what the reaction it would cause, and did it simply to hype himself up. The whole inauguration event in people minds is now associated with Elon doing “sieg heil” while being high on ketamine.

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  • Brkdncr@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨week⁩ ago

    I’m not seeing him saying it. He did a “what about” and then blamed the media.

    Also those are static images he’s showing. A video of those images would show very different hand motions.

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    • hisao@ani.social ⁨1⁩ ⁨week⁩ ago

      I also couldn’t find him directly denying it, and you’re correct those examples in referenced image are no good - in the comments there are video versions of those showing none of them looking anywhere similar to what he did. There are other videos of Macron and Camala doing something remotely similar, but they are fetching their hand far up in front of them in more of a waving to audience gesture, so it doesn’t look like nazi salute at all.

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• shades@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨1⁩ ⁨week⁩ ago

  <inAnAlternateReality>

  Elon did a thing.

  People said “That’s a nazi thing”.

  Elon immediately said “No, I didn’t do the nazi thing.”

  People said “we don’t believe you”.

  ∴ Elon is a nazi.

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