Oh It Gets Worse. Much Worse.

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• chiliedogg@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨hour⁩ ago

  A college degree demonstrates that you can complete a multi-part, multi-year project with competing priorities and strict milestone dates.

  Depending on the field, that may be all the qualifications I’m looking for in a candidate.

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• LeftReddit2@lemmy.world ⁨7⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

  I have around 12 years and some change experience of working in IT, but recently got rejected from a job because 8 of those years were working IT in the Army.

  The people I were trying to get a job with said it didn’t translate. The resume I put in with them had no military jargon in it, I explained the software and hardware I worked with, and for my reference sheet made sure to only include civilian contractors, General Schedules, and the professors from CompTIA, Microsoft, Cisco, and Google whomst I got my certs from so no military personnel, but they still said I didn’t have the ‘correct’ kind of experience.

  What the fuck happened to the job market, gamers?! Like the job market now feels like the dating scene and every single person you wanna have a relationship with is either only looking for a hook up and has stupidly high standards! What the fuck do you mean my IT experience in the Army isn’t the ‘right kind’ of experience?!

  Bitch out my dick.

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  • RememberTheApollo_@lemmy.world ⁨7⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    It’s probabky the SoS. Act like they were going to hire from the outside, but they were gonna promote the guy that already worked there for cheaper anyway.

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    • iocase@lemmy.zip ⁨1⁩ ⁨hour⁩ ago

      Or it’s AI

      Actually Indians

      Thats the solution in my country… make an impossible job posting, reject everyone, whine to the government, import indian and pay 50% of their wages while the federal government pays the rest. Also, they can’t say or do anything to assert their own rights or their TFW closed permit gets torn up and they get deported…

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• hperrin@lemmy.ca ⁨21⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

  This makes perfect sense to me. The boss is saying that you didn’t learn anything in college that you’ll use in this job, but your participation in college is what proves you’ll be a good little work rat.

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  • cheese_greater@lemmy.world ⁨8⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    No the outstanding payable student loans are what gurantees that

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    • hperrin@lemmy.ca ⁨8⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      That certainly helps. A job you don’t need is a job that can’t mistreat you.

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  • MrSelfDestruct@reddthat.com ⁨20⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    I remember this one business guy sitting next to me on a plane, pretty much told me that when I was younger. He said a degree just proves to them you’re trained to do what they say.

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• not_IO@lemmy.blahaj.zone ⁨4⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

  it’s a privilege filter to keep the cast clean

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  • Agent641@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    It’s a desperation filter to make sure you have such crushing debt that you will tolerate any workplace mistreatment to keep the job

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• atoro@lemmy.world ⁨21⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

  “I see here you didn’t list a degree, did you forget to add yours?” “I actually don’t have one, I figured my 16 years of software engineering experience at 3 different fortune 100 companies would count as experience in lieu.” “…well we really wanted that degree, so unfortunately…”

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  • Batman@lemmy.world ⁨5⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    My experience has been they want x years of relevant education or 1.5x/2x years of work experience in it’s absence.

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  • OriginEnergySux@lemmy.world ⁨21⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    My bachelor became obsolete a few years after i finished and couldnt put it on my resume anymore - still had to pay the student debt though

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  • Dave@lemmy.nz ⁨21⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    I was asked to review my own job description. “Must have relevant degree”. Me, awkwardly, can we update that to “Relevant degree would be a bonus”?

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• milbyte11@lemmy.ml ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

  I often hear that it’s not what you learned in college but rather that you have proven that you can regularly come sit in a place for hours for an extended amount of time out of your own free will.

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  • LodeMike@lemmy.today ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

    It’s more your ability to learn. I will probably never need to make my own linked list but learning how to taught me what pointers are.

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    • SpaghettiMaster@feddit.uk ⁨15⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      School put me off going to uni. I don’t need to spend even more hours learning about the fucking benefits and drawbacks of token ring networks.

      Government tripling the cost of uni compared to the year before me was also a lot of it. Didn’t learn to drive because insurance alone was £2k which I didn’t have. Now you want me to spend £9k a year? Haha, nope.

      They tried to make it sound better by saying its like the cost of going to Starbucks every day. That put me off Starbucks too.

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    • tacosanonymous@lemmy.blahaj.zone ⁨22⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      I think a lot of it is well roundedness and a good foundation for the later practical applications.

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    • SkyeStarfall@lemmy.blahaj.zone ⁨15⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      No, but knowing how one works help you get a fuller understanding of data structures. And data structures is definitively something one will use (well, if you’re a back-end dev, anyway)

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    • milbyte11@lemmy.ml ⁨22⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      ehh, even people that retain literally nothing can get through college to get a paper

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    • Aneb@lemmy.world ⁨21⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      Lol as a drop out I thought linked list and binary sort were the apex of programming and useful in all context.

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  • sudoer777@lemmy.ml ⁨19⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    Except for the 1/4 of my classes that I skipped and still passed

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  • xylol@leminal.space ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

    It’s surprisingly an issue when getting workers through an agency

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  • the_q@piefed.social ⁨21⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    Yup. Can you be a slave?

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  • SpaghettiMaster@feddit.uk ⁨15⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    Surely having an employment history with jobs lasting more than a month also proves that?

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    • milbyte11@lemmy.ml ⁨6⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      logically, but employers are rarely logical.

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    • PieMePlenty@lemmy.world ⁨15⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      There may be the odd bureaucratic company here and there that can not overlook a missing degree because there is no procedure for it. Generally though, previous employment is proof enough.
      Personally, I’d avoid the ones who demand to see one anyway because I wouldn’t be a good fit.

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• dejected_warp_core@lemmy.world ⁨7⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

  I’m in this picture. Early career, getting into industry was brutal to say the least. After I worked my way in, it became obvious that a degree was used as a proxy for socioeconomic class and IQ in a lot of places. These days, I suspect a degree is also being used now as a proxy for “loyalty” just by how much debt it puts on your credit record.

  That said, there were and are places that will look for other factors when hiring. I’d be willing to bet that those opportunities are also in the small corners of the economy that are nowhere near Fortune-500 scale. But you’re going to have to get hired on referral, as having someone vouch for your character and work-ethic are things HR cannot figure out from a resume. As far as hiring risk those, those two factors alone are massive advantages if you have a strong recommendation or two.

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• HalfSalesman@lemmy.world ⁨7⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

  Assuming a degree will get you a solid job.

  Haha… hahaha… no.

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• Lushed_Lungfish@lemmy.ca ⁨7⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

  Joke’s on them. I went to university.

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  • aksdb@lemmy.world ⁨6⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    Sorry, to apply here you should have went to _di_versity.

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• Ertain@feddit.online ⁨22⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

  The ol’ Catch-22 of the working world.

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