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Submitted ⁨⁨3⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago⁩ by ⁨mrsilkworm@piefed.social⁩ to ⁨games@lemmy.world⁩

https://www.reddit.com/r/classicfallout/s/HU33zupBaw

Bethesda is sending DMCA notices to a Ukrainian fighting the war in the frontlines to take down a classic (Fallout 1/2) engine emulator which doesn't use game files, ROMs, game code, textures, or music (you have to own the game to use it).

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  • jasoman@lemmy.world ⁨4⁩ ⁨minutes⁩ ago

    Bethesda pro Russia kinda tracks.

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  • RightHandOfIkaros@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    Should just ignore it. What’s Bethesda going to do about it?

    Honestly I wouldn’t even be surprised if this is AI overzealously abusing DMCA, which is hyper-omega-turbo-common nowadays. It came from Tracer, not Bethesda, so this is the most likely explanation. The ONLY thing they could ding the guy on is MAYBE trademark infringement, but then he can just change the name from fo2 to something else and no problems. I don’t see why he cant just do that.

    I also don’t see why him serving is important to the story for any reason other than sympathy points. Whether he was serving in a war or not is irrelevant to how erronious the DMCA abuse is. The abuse is just as bad either way.

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    • Jimbabwe@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      What’s Bethesda going to do about it?

      They could try invading Ukraine. All my Russian acquaintances assure me it’s quick and easy.

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      • Exusia@lemmy.world ⁨15⁩ ⁨minutes⁩ ago

        They could ask Ford for tips on raising their own crack squad of private enforcers, to send over there!

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    • NoPanko@feddit.uk ⁨2⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      Makes me think of a recent Davie504 video where he said he got a copyright notice for playing “the sound of silence” when what actually happened was he joked he was going to and then played a muted video of him playing the bass. Actual insanity.

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  • Rheinish@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    As per the reddit post it’s Tracer, a copyright enforcement company working on behalf of Zenimax and Bethesda, not Bethesda directly. I would be surprised if this was intentional because there is nothing but bad PR to gain. It’s probably just a false positive.

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    • sanpo@sopuli.xyz ⁨2⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      It’s always annoying how “it’s just a contractor/company working on their behalf” is used as an excuse.

      No, this is on Bethesda.
      They hired this copyright troll and they’re responsible for fraudulent DMCA requests sent on their behalf.

      They have enough money to either vet their contractors, or do the job themselves.

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      • Rheinish@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨hour⁩ ago

        This is not an excuse. I was adding nuance to the claim made in the title. I also don’t disagree that Bethesda is ultimately responsible for the contractors it hires, and if Tracer made an erroneous DMCA request, Bethesda should take responsibility for correcting it. However, given Bethesda’s previous treatment of projects like Daggerfall Unity and OpenMW, I think a simple error is a more plausible explanation than the company being a copyright troll.

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      • 5gruel@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨hour⁩ ago

        oh stop your outrage, saying that it was a contractor is just context, not an excuse.

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      • Coelacanth@feddit.nu ⁨1⁩ ⁨hour⁩ ago

        Absolutely this. I wish I could say I thought higher of Bethesda than employing copyright trolls, but unfortunately I guess I’m not surprised.

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      • magikmw@piefed.social ⁨1⁩ ⁨hour⁩ ago

        This, no amount of contractual deniability can absolve from responsibility for subcontractors action.

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    • Feyd@programming.dev ⁨31⁩ ⁨minutes⁩ ago

      “It’s just a false positive” while a regular person has their life fucked up. Whether it’s first party or another company hired to do the job, these giant companies don’t deserve any grace when they abuse DMCA.

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  • Flamekebab@piefed.social ⁨2⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    What’s the DMCA got to do with Ukraine? The US legal code doesn’t have worldwide jurisdiction, despite what they may think.

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  • dontbelievethis@sh.itjust.works ⁨2⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    What if devs would publisch their stuff via torrent?

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    • antianarchist@sopuli.xyz ⁨31⁩ ⁨minutes⁩ ago

      Even if the traffic of the torrent protocol is peer-to-peer, there have to be central nodes managing all that unfortunately. This is why DMCA notices are also successful with torrent providers. Without anyone providing that central node, no torrent works.

      One of the major weaknesses of bittorrent.

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