Just want to point out that the Marvel president did at least end up in superjail… so… Still fiction, but not entirely fascit apologia.
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Binturong@lemmy.ca 2 weeks ago
IAmNorRealTakeYourMeds@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
Powerful people facing accountability for their actions?
that’s more unbelievable than the Hulk
Binturong@lemmy.ca 2 weeks ago
that’s a fact
FreshParsnip@lemmy.ca 2 weeks ago
That’s how you know President Ross isn’t Trump, Ross actually had enough honour to step down and take accountability for his crimes
SourDragon@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
Superman gets more based by the day
IAmNorRealTakeYourMeds@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
Superman wouldn’t kill Netanyahu, buy he has no problems sending his pals who don’t mind killing Netanyahu
HeyThisIsntTheYMCA@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
Yeah the justice league sends the right supe for the job, not just Supes every time.
FreshParsnip@lemmy.ca 2 weeks ago
That’s a bit misleading about Caprain America. Yeah, I guess the movie wants us to forgive President Ross so it’s technically correct, but he also stops being president and goes to prison
Gullible@sh.itjust.works 2 weeks ago
Seriously, though. What the fuck was that hulk movie?
Grail@multiverse.soulism.net 2 weeks ago
The president does go to prison at the end of that movie
IAmNorRealTakeYourMeds@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
more unbelievable part of a superhero movie where a Hulk is president
DahGangalang@infosec.pub 2 weeks ago
Almost worse if I understand the US Justice system well enough, tbh.
j4yc33@piefed.social 2 weeks ago
Can someone ELI5 … or ELI haven’t seen either of these movies and don’t know if these are quotes from people involved or the general sentiment of the messages of the movies.
JoMiran@lemmy.ml 2 weeks ago
I didn’t watch Captain America but in Superman, Superman shoves a dictator that’s clearly a stand in for Netenyahoo into a cactus and Hawkgirl, who has no issue with killing, drops him from the sky.
DahGangalang@infosec.pub 2 weeks ago
In the Captain America movie, US President gets turned into a hulk and wrecks some junk (and maybe screws up some other stuff, maybe commits war crimes? Idk, I just watched some summary videos). The message is that none of that really matters; patriotism and loyalty to your leadership is important and so we should look past all that.
In Superman, a major plot point is a tacitly abstracted Israel/Gaza conflict. Superman continues to delay/obstruct the invasion by kidnapping the leader of parallel Israel, taking him to the middle of the desert, and dropping him from crazy high (and catching him before he hits the ground) to get him to back down.
Grail@multiverse.soulism.net 2 weeks ago
And when that doesn’t get him to clean up his act, Hawkgirl does the same thing… minus the catching. Hawkgirl doesn’t give a shit.
Tango@piefed.ca 2 weeks ago
What? Brave New World ends with Captain America putting the president in jail. I have no idea what would make you think the movie promotes an “obey no matter what” policy. That you would even suggest that it does leads me to suspect that you’re not being entirely honest here.
Wispy2891@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
I didn’t see the movie, but if someone is dropped from hundreds of meters, then catched before he hits the ground, the instant deceleration has the same effect of hitting the ground, no?
Uruanna@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
You also got the Superman summary wrong because Hawkgirl does drop the guy from the sky at the end and it’s made very clear that no one catches him. He dies. Superman doesn’t drop-and-catch him, just pins him to a cactus. That doesn’t stop him, which is why Hawkgirl later flies in, points out she’s not Superman when the guy groats that she won’t do shit to him, and then she cracks his egg.
DagwoodIII@piefed.social 2 weeks ago
In the Captain America movie we learn that the current [MCU] President was near the same blast that created the first Hulk. Yadda yadda, the President becomes the Red Hulk and ends up in jail. Harrison Ford plays the President and he’s sorrowful for what happened and Captain America is also sad.
In Superman, Superman explicitly uses his powers to stop a genocidal war and the dictator gets killed. At one point Lois Lane questions if just having super powers gives Clark the right to do anything he wants, even if it’s good?
If you haven’t seen the MCU movies, see ‘Black Panther’ first. Then see ‘Captain America - The Winter Soldier.’ imho, those are the only two that would be interesting if you took out the super hero stuff.
Superman is a pretty fun movie. It was made by a fan boy, so it can be confusing if you don’t know who The Element Man or Krypto are.
Tango@piefed.ca 2 weeks ago
No, the president (a formerly retired US army general named Ross who had been hunting the Hulk for years) is revealed to have holding a character from the first Hulk movie in prison for years and forcing that character (Samuel Sterns, AKA The Leader) to use his incredible genius to do two things: 1 - help him with his heart condition (which was what had forced his retirement in the first place) and 2 - help him win the presidency. It is then revealed that The Leader, instead of simply curing his heart condition, has been seeking revenge by dosing him slowly with a substance that has turned him into another Hulk; this one red.
The Leader then instigates a series of events which politically embarrass Ross and put him under increasing stress in the hopes of triggering a public hulkout which will ruin him. In this, he succeeds, and Captain America is forced to fight the Red Hulk without killing him. Cap eventually succeeds in calming him down, at which point he reverts to Ross and his promptly imprisoned in super-jail.
SpaceNoodle@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
Sandman can serve as an introduction to Metamorpho. And I’m not sure why we need an explanation for Krypto; it’s a super dog - is that not enough?
AmyAye@nord.pub 2 weeks ago
Watch Black Panther for the soundtrack alone even, and maybe that Busan car chase.
Visstix@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
General sentiment of the movies.
In superman there’s an evil dictator from a fictional country that gets dropped by a flying superhero (not superman). In captain america someone injects the president with a hulk serum and causes chaos.(Honestly haven’t seen that one but I think that it lol)
FE80@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
Americans are so disconnected from any ability to materially influence the operation of society that politics has been redefined into opinions on entertainment.